unknown quiver

Kurt · 19th October 2011, 11:46 AM

Can anyone tell from what country it comes from?
Ottoman? Tatar? Or?
Regards
Kurt

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 19th October 2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Can anyone tell from what country it comes from?
Ottoman? Tatar? Or?
Regards
Kurt

Salaams Kurt, It looks like its off the Islamic road to China.. pushing up to the Uigur region?.. Nice. Ibrahiim.

Kurt · 19th October 2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Kurt, It looks like its off the Islamic road to China.. pushing up to the Uigur region?.. Nice. Ibrahiim.

Hi ibrahim ,

You may be right, not China but close.
18 Century?

Regards
Kurt

Jim McDougall · 20th October 2011, 04:51 PM

Kurt, this actually would be a bow case and quiver en suite, and extremely handsomely embellished however it would be difficult to say much more without more defined photos. It seems quite possible that Tibetan or Mongolian attribution may be considered as well, but should be noted that these kinds of accoutrements were widely known across the Steppes. Also, the Silk Road itself is almost synonymous with distribution of culture, material and all aspects.
With this being the case, it does not seem unlikely that this may be from any number of tribal groups or regions, but Oriental definition seems applicable.
Perhaps, better photos showing more on the motif might give more for discussion. Beautiful set from images shown, and it seems examples of antiquity are not commonly found. Uncertain of more recent production of examples, but archery is still prominant in these regions so quite possible.
Assessment of age and authentication is difficult of course from photos, and as with most material culture, traditional forms, styles and motif were maintained through long periods so being of 17th-18th century style might cover many hundreds of years.

Best regards,
Jim

19th October 2011, 11:46 AM	#1
Kurt Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 197	unknown quiver Can anyone tell from what country it comes from? Ottoman? Tatar? Or? Regards Kurt Attached Images

20th October 2011, 04:51 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	Kurt, this actually would be a bow case and quiver en suite, and extremely handsomely embellished however it would be difficult to say much more without more defined photos. It seems quite possible that Tibetan or Mongolian attribution may be considered as well, but should be noted that these kinds of accoutrements were widely known across the Steppes. Also, the Silk Road itself is almost synonymous with distribution of culture, material and all aspects. With this being the case, it does not seem unlikely that this may be from any number of tribal groups or regions, but Oriental definition seems applicable. Perhaps, better photos showing more on the motif might give more for discussion. Beautiful set from images shown, and it seems examples of antiquity are not commonly found. Uncertain of more recent production of examples, but archery is still prominant in these regions so quite possible. Assessment of age and authentication is difficult of course from photos, and as with most material culture, traditional forms, styles and motif were maintained through long periods so being of 17th-18th century style might cover many hundreds of years. Best regards, Jim