Expensive Indian Khanjar

ariel · 30th October 2010, 11:14 PM

$3,725
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Am I missing something?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...T#ht_736wt_950

Robert · 31st October 2010, 12:21 AM

Here ya go. Is it just me or does the hilt look like it is on up-side down?

Robert

Valjhun · 31st October 2010, 12:57 AM

Hmm... It looks all wrong to me.

Battara · 31st October 2010, 05:07 AM

I thought about getting in but it went way over my head. Got some better stuff in the works anyway.

Now that you mention it, the hilt does look like it is on backwards, doesn't it?

ariel · 31st October 2010, 06:05 AM

The scabbard is very, very new, and similar hilts are sold on e-bay from India for ~$300.
Throw in a tube of Crazy Glue and .... well, that's a higher interest rate than what my bank offers:-)

Atlantia · 31st October 2010, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Here ya go. Is it just me or does the hilt look like it is on up-side down?

Robert

Looks upside down to me too, but the hilt looks like it would fit that way in the scabbard and not the other? So possibly just some weird variation to attract the eye of a wealthy traveller?
Blade looks OK, like the collar, be nice to see close-ups, scabbard looks like it's possibly late 19th/early 20th, hilt is very well carved, nice piercing, could be legit?

But to lay out that kind of cash on pictures of that quality

Rick · 31st October 2010, 05:25 PM

I'm not overwhelmed by the level of workmanship in the blade .
Could be old and just poor work .

Agree about the ca$h expenditure based on a few electrons ........

A. G. Maisey · 1st November 2010, 05:18 AM

If it were possible to investigate this dagger I believe it would be found that the blade is wootz, with a piece of iron lap welded to the hilt end to form the tang.

Apparently this was not at all uncommon in Indian court daggers.

I believe the blade has been removed and re-mounted upside down.

The hilt which I assume is jade appears to have been damaged in the area of the pommel.

Here are pics of two similar daggers which came out of India in about 1920 and which have been appraised as Mughal, probably 17th century, by three separate people, one in USA, one in UK, and one in Australia.

ALEX · 10th December 2010, 03:22 PM

Alan, I second your opinion. The hilt looks like nephrite jade, not aventurine. moreover, does not look anything like modern "mughal" work seen on eBay and elsewhere. overall, quite decent quality hilt. and if it is jade indeed - a rare, potentially 18/19 C, bargain. attached is similarly shaped hilt.

30th October 2010, 11:14 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Expensive Indian Khanjar $3,725 Can not load files. Am I missing something? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...T#ht_736wt_950

31st October 2010, 12:21 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Here ya go. Is it just me or does the hilt look like it is on up-side down? Robert Attached Images

1st November 2010, 05:18 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	If it were possible to investigate this dagger I believe it would be found that the blade is wootz, with a piece of iron lap welded to the hilt end to form the tang. Apparently this was not at all uncommon in Indian court daggers. I believe the blade has been removed and re-mounted upside down. The hilt which I assume is jade appears to have been damaged in the area of the pommel. Here are pics of two similar daggers which came out of India in about 1920 and which have been appraised as Mughal, probably 17th century, by three separate people, one in USA, one in UK, and one in Australia. Attached Images

10th December 2010, 03:22 PM	#9
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Alan, I second your opinion. The hilt looks like nephrite jade, not aventurine. moreover, does not look anything like modern "mughal" work seen on eBay and elsewhere. overall, quite decent quality hilt. and if it is jade indeed - a rare, potentially 18/19 C, bargain. attached is similarly shaped hilt. Attached Images

31st October 2010, 12:57 AM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Hmm... It looks all wrong to me.

31st October 2010, 05:07 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I thought about getting in but it went way over my head. Got some better stuff in the works anyway. Now that you mention it, the hilt does look like it is on backwards, doesn't it?

31st October 2010, 06:05 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The scabbard is very, very new, and similar hilts are sold on e-bay from India for ~$300. Throw in a tube of Crazy Glue and .... well, that's a higher interest rate than what my bank offers:-)

31st October 2010, 05:25 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I'm not overwhelmed by the level of workmanship in the blade . Could be old and just poor work . Agree about the ca$h expenditure based on a few electrons ........