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Keris forum moderator
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Hi All!
I am looking for some info on this interesting vintage folder that belongs to a good friend of mine. And ideas on origin would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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Not sure but offhand looks like something from Finland. Reminds me of puuko from those areas especially the Lapp people. |
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Vikingsword Staff
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Hi David,
The ferrule looks like it rotates to lock the blade open like the Opinel knives; yes? A picture of what is carved on the surface of the handle might help. |
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I understand where Jim was coming from as my thoughts were also in a similar direction, but more towards an Inuit type with regards to the zoomorphic decoration...but than again I could be totally mistaken....!
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To me it looks like a vintage artistic addition to the French Nontron folder. See attached. Maybe someone will show the knife as I am too technically challenged to do it myself.
https://www.objectsofuse.com/Nontron-penknife-8cm Best, Ed |
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Interesting knife. Is a French hunying knife? The animal is confusing from the pictures shown. To me it appears to have an agressive wild boar snout and possbly antlers. I would not have thought any creative would see a boat snout with antlers. Just a view probably not helping.
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I think we need pictures of the creature relief carved on the back of the grip. If the figure is a prick-eared canine, then I would suggest it relates to Fenrir, the wolf who ate Odin. I know there are no fangs shown and I can't account for that. More pictures please.
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That makes more sense. Very nice usable folder.
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Keris forum moderator
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Thanks for all your responses. I will link this discussion to my friend and see if we can get some more photos.
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I think the key to the knife ID is the collar. Does it rotate to lock the blade open like Opinel? If it doesn't rotate & lock; Never Mind. But the Opinel patent of 1955 is centuries later than the design perhaps used on the Nontron. Here is AI's take on the issue:
AI Overview The Nontron knife features a rotating metal collar (or "virole") that acts as a ring lock, first invented in the 17th century by Parisian master cutler Guillaume Legrand. Key Characteristics & UseHow It Works: You manually twist the brass or nickel-silver ring over the pivot area when the blade is fully opened. This blocks the blade from closing, keeping your fingers safe.Historical Significance: While it operates similarly to modern rotating rings (like those on an Opinel), the Nontron locking ring predates them by centuries. Maintenance: Over time, humidity or wood swelling might make the ring lock either too stiff or too loose. If the ring becomes too loose, it can be carefully removed and gently pinched in a vise to re-establish a snug friction fit. Regards, Ed |
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