American Revolutionary Period Swords?

[drac2k]

I've had these for a while and I always thought of them as Napoleonic Period Swords, however I was going through my Neuman Book of "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution," and now I'm not so sure.

[M ELEY]

Hey Drak. Nice swords! I'd still place them as post-Revolution, but early, 1790's. Their knuckle bows are a transition between the early stirrup hilts and the later (ca. 1796) reverse-P style hilt. Neumann was great at categorizing many of the sword types of this period and I suppose it could be possible they might have been around as early as the 1780's, catching that very end of the conflict. I view his book as one of the most important on the subject, but over time, some of those he listed have since turned out to be later (I know for certain one of the cutlasses listed has now been determined to be a War of 1812 sword). This is just my opinion though. Anyone else want to chime in on these?

[drac2k]

Thanks for your insightful comments;they make good sense to me.

[serdar]

Those two sabers should be austrian prima plana 1767 models.
German hangers? And that they were used in america?
I never heard about that, but that type of saber is called prima plana and sometimes grenadier saber 1767.

[Will M]

Hessians that fought for the British in the American Revolution would have worn such swords.

[drac2k]

Great information on all accounts.The sword is indeed an Austrian Prima Plana Grenadier sword which looks like the M1767, however the knucklebows are thinner on the earlier models as opposed to mine as M ELEY noted, so maybe they are a later transition model, also noted by M ELEY ?
I was also surprised to learn that there were between 30,000 to 37,000 Hessian soldiers that fought in the American Revolution;I had no idea that the number was so high!