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			Does anyone here have an idea what the horse-marks on the barrel stand for? 
		
		
		
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			Lots of clicks but not a single reaction. So one of our Russian forummites is eventually able to tell me where this pistol probably has been made.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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	Is the box (stock) covered with leather? of what animal? Affectionately  | 
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			yes, it is probably leather, but of which animal I don't know.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I cannot say what the horse stamp is exactly, though they are mentioned in "Weapons of the People of the Caucasus" by Astvatsaturyan, but it is written that the source is unknown. It is a nice example of a Circassian pistol, what the Georgians call "Dambacha". According to the same book, the leather is Donkey, and this is a very specific thing for Circassian arms.
		 
		
		
		
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			Thank you for this helpful answer. Identifying these Causcasus pistols is usually not easy when it comes to whether they come from Georgia, Dagestan or Circassia. To date, despite a lot of documentation, I have not been able to identify the characteristics that can be used to determine the origin of the pistols
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Today I was in the Luigi Marzoli Arms Collection in Bresica, Italy and spotted an identical horse stamp on a barrel of a blunderbuss. The display suggested this was a Brescian makers mark.
		 
		
		
		
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			Thanks for your reply but  the mark at the museums' pistol is different to the marks of the pistol in question. I think, I found this mark in your post of may 7th.
		 
		
		
		
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