Schiavona Bellunese (?)

[Evgeny_K]

I have long wanted to get schiavona and finally, this wish came true
As I was told it's early schiavona made in Belluna, 1570-80s (Thank you, Giovanni!)

[Evgeny_K]

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[Evgeny_K]

Similar (bellunese?) markings on both sides of the blade.

[Evgeny_K]

Looks like the blade was once shortened a bit.

[fernando]

Great .
Any marks ?

Oh yes, the marks are shown in the other thread !


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[AndreaFeraro89]

For a reference, from Stibbert Collection (Florence).
This is a photo from the catalogue, written by LG Boccia.

Do not look at pommel and handle (probably they have been put together in the XIX cent.)

The etchings on the guard are so similar to your, almost identical!
Boccia says is Belunese, made around 1590-1600.

The difference with your is that this guard is more complex, and in my opinion is a little bit later than your.

Cheers
Giovanni

[Evgeny_K]

Thank you, Giovanni!
Probably these guards were made by the same swordsmith or in one workshop.

[Philip]

Congratulations, Evgeny. The simpler hilt construction of yours is a quite early design, your estimate of dates is right, and this style is seldom found. I don't object to the slightly shortened blade; these were issued for combat, not parade and occasional damages like this can be expected. The early hilt design more than makes up for it.

[Evgeny_K]

Originally Posted by Philip

Congratulations, Evgeny. The simpler hilt construction of yours is a quite early design, your estimate of dates is right, and this style is seldom found. I don't object to the slightly shortened blade; these were issued for combat, not parade and occasional damages like this can be expected. The early hilt design more than makes up for it.

Thank you, Philip!

[Philip]

Here's one in a private collection. The very simple guard on these has a "proto-" look, I think it is the immediate predecessor to the form that Ewart Oakeshott called Type I (the Stibbert example posted above has one of those guards). As regards the sword in this post, I have a gut feeling that the pommel may be a later replacement but I leave it to other forum members to comment as well.

[Enibas]

Hello everyone,

Philipp, I think the Sciavona that you posted is completely assembled (errors excepted, of course)

And thanks for praise to Evgeny's sword.

I was amazed at the reluctance in the forum for this unique piece. I have never seen this quality in any museum.

Evgeny, your sciavona has only one serious mistake: It is not mine :-)

Keep it as it is.

A nice week-end.

[AndreaFeraro89]

Originally Posted by Enibas

Hello everyone,

Philipp, I think the Sciavona that you posted is completely assembled (errors excepted, of course)

And thanks for praise to Evgeny's sword.

I was amazed at the reluctance in the forum for this unique piece. I have never seen this quality in any museum.

Evgeny, your sciavona has only one serious mistake: It is not mine :-)

Keep it as it is.

A nice week-end.

Completely agree with you @Enibas, that schiavona is really astonishing, very very rare to find such an early and complete model like this in the museum too! (Italy included)