Origin of this spear head

danny1976 · 2nd January 2014, 05:02 PM

Hello ,

At first happy newyear to all !!

I,m offered a spear, see the photo it is the top one , the other one is clearly Atjeh. But i.m not 100% sure about the origin of the top one , so a ''shout'' for help for this one .
IMO it,s a sumatran sprear probaly from Atjeh but any help is welcom.

Regards,

Danny

VANDOO · 3rd January 2014, 06:43 AM

I WOULD AGREE IT IS LIKELY FROM SUMATRA. THEY MAKE VERY GOOD QUALITY SPEARS AND THERE IS QUITE A VARIETY OF FORMS EVEN IN THE SMALL AREA OF NIAS. A VERY NICE BLADE AND IS THE FERRULE SILVER?

asomotif · 4th January 2014, 01:13 AM

Hello Danny,

Best wishes for 2014.

Do you have some more pictures ?
Looks Celebes to me.
See Zonneveld or mytribalworld.com

danny1976 · 4th January 2014, 12:51 PM

Hi Willem And Vandoo,

I picked up the lance yesterday and did made some extra pictures.
Still not clear where it comes from but like Willem suggested it looks like it is from Celebes .In the database from Rmv i find Lance's with similair construction and also in the book from Zonneveld .

Total lenght is 218 cm.
The point is heavy and nicely forged, on the end there is missing a endcap.

VANDOO · 4th January 2014, 08:13 PM

CONGRADULATIONS ITS A NICE ONE

FROM THE FIRST PICTURES I THOUGHT IT HAD A TANG AND THEN A METAL FERRULE LIKE MANY INDONESIAN SPEARS I HAVE SEEN. THE OTHER PICTURES SHOW IT TO HAVE A BUILT IN BOLSTER AS WELL AS A SOCKET RATHER THAN A FERRULE. THAT MAY HELP PIN IT DOWN IF SPEARS FROM THE CELEBES HAVE THAT FEATURE.

2nd January 2014, 05:02 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Origin of this spear head Hello , At first happy newyear to all !! I,m offered a spear, see the photo it is the top one , the other one is clearly Atjeh. But i.m not 100% sure about the origin of the top one , so a ''shout'' for help for this one . IMO it,s a sumatran sprear probaly from Atjeh but any help is welcom. Regards, Danny Attached Images

4th January 2014, 12:51 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Willem And Vandoo, I picked up the lance yesterday and did made some extra pictures. Still not clear where it comes from but like Willem suggested it looks like it is from Celebes .In the database from Rmv i find Lance's with similair construction and also in the book from Zonneveld . Total lenght is 218 cm. The point is heavy and nicely forged, on the end there is missing a endcap. Attached Images

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3rd January 2014, 06:43 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WOULD AGREE IT IS LIKELY FROM SUMATRA. THEY MAKE VERY GOOD QUALITY SPEARS AND THERE IS QUITE A VARIETY OF FORMS EVEN IN THE SMALL AREA OF NIAS. A VERY NICE BLADE AND IS THE FERRULE SILVER?

4th January 2014, 01:13 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Hello Danny, Best wishes for 2014. Do you have some more pictures ? Looks Celebes to me. See Zonneveld or mytribalworld.com

4th January 2014, 08:13 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRADULATIONS ITS A NICE ONE FROM THE FIRST PICTURES I THOUGHT IT HAD A TANG AND THEN A METAL FERRULE LIKE MANY INDONESIAN SPEARS I HAVE SEEN. THE OTHER PICTURES SHOW IT TO HAVE A BUILT IN BOLSTER AS WELL AS A SOCKET RATHER THAN A FERRULE. THAT MAY HELP PIN IT DOWN IF SPEARS FROM THE CELEBES HAVE THAT FEATURE.