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|  7th November 2012, 11:16 PM | #1 | 
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			Dear members , I would like to submit you a lot I bought during an auction coming from Baron von Hochstetter collection , Düsseldorf. I am more keris collector orientated and know nothing about spears so would be happy to understand a little bit more on the origin of these head spears . Looks like possible different origins ( Aceh ? Sulu Archipelago ? Sumatra ... ) HEAD SPEAR 4 : overall > 380 mm Note the difference in colour on the blade which is mirror on the other side . Not a stain but probably different kind of steel / iron used during forging .... | 
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|  7th November 2012, 11:44 PM | #2 | 
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			I have two examples of this form . Mandaya, Mindanao; possibly trade pieces from 'Indonesia' (of that time) . | 
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|  8th November 2012, 12:36 AM | #3 | 
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			Thank you Rick for your reply . You are right ... just after your reply I browsed different sites and found a similar head spear with these comments : " Rare Mandaya undecorated paneled spear head : This exceptional piece was exhibited at the Pan American Exposition 1904. A seldom seen spear head of the Mandaya people of East Mindanao made of finely watered steel; this piece originally from the collection of the Philippine Provisional Governor U.S. General Harold Bandholtz. Probably collected after General Pershing's order #11 to disarm the local tribes. Shaft length: Shafts not included. When mounted this spear is approximately 274 cm long. Shaft wood is Palma Brava with forged iron conical cap at the end. " Blade length: 31.2 cm Source: www.arscives.com | 
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|  8th November 2012, 01:02 AM | #4 | 
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			^^^ Mine .  One of my examples shows the same color variation that your example does . I have also seen these spear points in a tanged configuration . Come to think of it; your example may be the only socketed Mandaya spear head that I have seen other than my two . I lie .   Rare Beasties ....  http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=mandaya+spear Last edited by Rick; 8th November 2012 at 01:25 AM. | 
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|  8th November 2012, 01:27 AM | #5 | 
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			Mandaya indeed.  However, I don't think there was a Pan American Exposition in 1904. Perhaps, St. Louis Exposition of 1904. Gen. Harold Bandholtz or Gen. Harry Hill Bandholtz? I suspect that all those spears you posted are from Southern Philippines. | 
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|  8th November 2012, 03:19 AM | #6 | 
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			I also have 2 of these Mandaya spearheads.........    | 
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