Unusual Kampilan

carlos · 23rd April 2007, 08:27 PM

This Kampilan belongs to a friend, he has several weapons from Philippines than one familiar of him bring back to Spain in 1993. Is a very rare Kampilan, and my question is if this kampilan is a real and authentic kampilan or is some made for the tourist ( in 1893) ? Thanks

Battara · 24th April 2007, 02:33 AM

Well (being a deep subject

) for starters, this looks Lumad to me. Does not look like the usual tourist stuff. Ceremonial usage. Which tribe -

DaveS · 24th April 2007, 03:29 AM

Have to agree with Jose. I think it is also Lumad, but definitly not tourist. I also don't think it is strictly ceremonial. It looks like a combat kampilon to me. No matter what, it is a really good example of a rare style of kamp................Dave.

VANDOO · 24th April 2007, 05:16 AM

A UNUSUAL KAMPILLIAN INDEED. I CAN'T REALLY TELL MUCH FROM THE PICTURES, PERHAPS A FEW OF THE SCABBARD WOULD HELP. FROM WHAT LITTLE I CAN SEE IN THE PRESENT PICTURES THE SCABBARD MAY BE LUMAD OR PERHAPS BAGOBO OR TIBOLI A GOOD CLOSEUP OF THE DETAIL WOULD HELP.

pinoy · 24th April 2007, 05:46 AM

a close up on the hand guard and tip of blade would help.

Bill · 24th April 2007, 04:04 PM

A close up of the tiger bells may help. http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/details.htm http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/phils.htm#mindanao http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/indonesi.htm#lanun

MaharlikaTimawa · 3rd February 2017, 07:31 AM

This may be the first Visayan Kampilan I've come across (if this really is visayan made).

Ian · 3rd February 2017, 09:41 PM

The swords shown by VANDOO in posts #17, 18 display a recent style of Moro work coming from the Lake Lanao (Maranao) region of Mindanao. This highly curved, almost "rococo," decoration started to appear on the market in the 1990s (as best I can determine) and a number of Filipino dealers point to a handful of Moro craftsmen in the Lake Lanao region as producing them. The finish is good on the wood elements (probably made from kumagong,which is a very hard wood) and for that reason I think they are interesting and collectable. The blades, however, are fairly ordinary and almost always mono-steel. Similar fittings can also be found on recently made kris and barung.

Ian.

MaharlikaTimawa · 7th February 2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

The swords shown by VANDOO in posts #17, 18 display a recent style of Moro work coming from the Lake Lanao (Maranao) region of Mindanao. This highly curved, almost "rococo," decoration started to appear on the market in the 1990s (as best I can determine) and a number of Filipino dealers point to a handful of Moro craftsmen in the Lake Lanao region as producing them. The finish is good on the wood elements (probably made from kumagong,which is a very hard wood) and for that reason I think they are interesting and collectable. The blades, however, are fairly ordinary and almost always mono-steel. Similar fittings can also be found on recently made kris and barung.

Ian.

I believe the Kampilan posted by Carlos however is of Visayan origin. I am not sure if this is a tourist made one or a kampilan from a time before the coming of the Americans (or maybe even Spanish) but from what many people have pointed out, this might be the first visayan kampilan I and probably many others have come across of. Assuming of course this is an antique and not a some kind of tourist piece usually seen in southern Luzon.

3rd February 2017, 07:31 AM	#7
MaharlikaTimawa Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 33	First Visayan Kampilan? This may be the first Visayan Kampilan I've come across (if this really is visayan made).

23rd April 2007, 08:27 PM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	Unusual Kampilan This Kampilan belongs to a friend, he has several weapons from Philippines than one familiar of him bring back to Spain in 1993. Is a very rare Kampilan, and my question is if this kampilan is a real and authentic kampilan or is some made for the tourist ( in 1893) ? Thanks Attached Images

24th April 2007, 02:33 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Well (being a deep subject ) for starters, this looks Lumad to me. Does not look like the usual tourist stuff. Ceremonial usage. Which tribe -

24th April 2007, 03:29 AM	#3
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Have to agree with Jose. I think it is also Lumad, but definitly not tourist. I also don't think it is strictly ceremonial. It looks like a combat kampilon to me. No matter what, it is a really good example of a rare style of kamp................Dave.

24th April 2007, 05:16 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A UNUSUAL KAMPILLIAN INDEED. I CAN'T REALLY TELL MUCH FROM THE PICTURES, PERHAPS A FEW OF THE SCABBARD WOULD HELP. FROM WHAT LITTLE I CAN SEE IN THE PRESENT PICTURES THE SCABBARD MAY BE LUMAD OR PERHAPS BAGOBO OR TIBOLI A GOOD CLOSEUP OF THE DETAIL WOULD HELP.

24th April 2007, 05:46 AM	#5
pinoy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	a close up on the hand guard and tip of blade would help.

24th April 2007, 04:04 PM	#6
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	A close up of the tiger bells may help. http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/details.htm http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/phils.htm#mindanao http://park.org/Guests/Tiger/indonesi.htm#lanun

3rd February 2017, 09:41 PM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,521	The swords shown by VANDOO in posts #17, 18 display a recent style of Moro work coming from the Lake Lanao (Maranao) region of Mindanao. This highly curved, almost "rococo," decoration started to appear on the market in the 1990s (as best I can determine) and a number of Filipino dealers point to a handful of Moro craftsmen in the Lake Lanao region as producing them. The finish is good on the wood elements (probably made from kumagong,which is a very hard wood) and for that reason I think they are interesting and collectable. The blades, however, are fairly ordinary and almost always mono-steel. Similar fittings can also be found on recently made kris and barung. Ian.