Visayan Sword, need help in ID’ing.

kino · 20th September 2020, 08:46 PM

Overall length is 25”, blade length 19.25”.
Blade is laminated, not peeled at the top the hilt. Hilt is carved out of Carabao horn. I’m guessing the teeth and fangs are bone. Handle and ferrule are octagonal, ferrule and s-guard are brass. No scabbard.

Thanks for your help.

kino · 20th September 2020, 08:50 PM

Hey Mods, can you move this to the other forum. Thanks.

David · 20th September 2020, 09:47 PM

Yep, i'll move it now.

kai · 20th September 2020, 10:45 PM

Hello Albert,

This is an odd one!

Based mainly on the blade profile, I'm not convinced this really is Visayan.

The depicted "demon/spirit" of unusual style, the wings (eagle or angle?), and also the human face do seem to be very unusual for the Visayas, too.

I'd be inclined to guess at a more northern origin. Possibly one of the somewhat intermediate regions like Bicol?!?

Regards,
Kai

Ian · 20th September 2020, 11:51 PM

Hi Albert,

Very unusual sword/knife. I'm inclined to think this is Visayan from the style of hilt and the S-guard. Does the blade have a chisel-grind? As far as figural hilts, there are a few examples of heads on swords from Panay, including mustachioed Spanish men--uncommon but not rare. Perhaps this is a custom-made piece. The blade seems non-traditional for Panay.

Have you run this one by Zel?

Regards,

Ian

kino · 21st September 2020, 12:37 AM

Thanks you for moving it David.

Kai, I thought Visayas because the blade profile was somewhat like a
Garab, but....not quite.

Ian, the blade does have a chisel grind.

Does the octagonal ferrule have a bearing towards Luzon?

20th September 2020, 08:46 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Visayan Sword, need help in ID’ing. Overall length is 25”, blade length 19.25”. Blade is laminated, not peeled at the top the hilt. Hilt is carved out of Carabao horn. I’m guessing the teeth and fangs are bone. Handle and ferrule are octagonal, ferrule and s-guard are brass. No scabbard. Thanks for your help. Attached Images

20th September 2020, 08:50 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	My bad. Hey Mods, can you move this to the other forum. Thanks.

20th September 2020, 09:47 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Yep, i'll move it now.

20th September 2020, 10:45 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Albert, This is an odd one! Based mainly on the blade profile, I'm not convinced this really is Visayan. The depicted "demon/spirit" of unusual style, the wings (eagle or angle?), and also the human face do seem to be very unusual for the Visayas, too. I'd be inclined to guess at a more northern origin. Possibly one of the somewhat intermediate regions like Bicol?!? Regards, Kai

20th September 2020, 11:51 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,522	Hi Albert, Very unusual sword/knife. I'm inclined to think this is Visayan from the style of hilt and the S-guard. Does the blade have a chisel-grind? As far as figural hilts, there are a few examples of heads on swords from Panay, including mustachioed Spanish men--uncommon but not rare. Perhaps this is a custom-made piece. The blade seems non-traditional for Panay. Have you run this one by Zel? Regards, Ian

21st September 2020, 12:37 AM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	Thanks you for moving it David. Kai, I thought Visayas because the blade profile was somewhat like a Garab, but....not quite. Ian, the blade does have a chisel grind. Does the octagonal ferrule have a bearing towards Luzon?