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			This was offered to me, the seller said it was found on the river along with 3 more keris blades, but all 3 has no value, except this one is still "thick" and perhaps preserve-able 
		
		
		
			Note that I never take seller's story for real, and I am not thinking about buying this keris for now please also note that along with strengthening of islam in Java, most people are no longer wanted to keep a keris, and choose to discard them, and preferred method is to toss them to sea or river the owner said this blade is Pasopati (dhapur) with unknown pamor, and I differ in opinion as I clearly see the "pudhak sategal" on this blade so let's start our discussion ... is it possible this blade (judging from the corrosion) spend quite some time underwater or this was a new blade - aged artificially to look older ? can we call this one "pasopati" or perhaps Sinom is more appropriate ? thanks Donny  | 
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			Hello Donny, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I also doubt this blade spend considerable time under water - I'd expect the corrosion to be much more erratic. The circular & rectangular fit of the pesi looks weird, too. I'm especially weary of the discoloration of the gonjo at the pesi though... ![]() Regards, Kai  | 
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			I am almost certain this is is of rather recent manufacture, artificially aged. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 a new keris in good condition is way better than new one artificially aged Donny  | 
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