Mid 18 th century Spanish military musket for ID.

[Cerjak]

Hello,
I have just bought this one few days ago and I still don’t have receive it.I would like to know which model it could be and of course I would like to have more information about this mark on the flintlock ‘ GARATE or CARATE I did no find it in "Der Neue Stockel" yet .
Any comment on it will be welcome

Best
CERJAK

[Fernando K]

Cerjak

GARATE surname is during 17,18 and 19th centuries.

Efforts should be francisco de Garate, spark (lock-maker) 1722-1740 or Juan Antonio de Garate, spark (lock-maker) 1740 or Juan Martin de Garate, spark (lock-maker) 1745.

Also Juan Bautista de Garate, canonist (barrel-maker) 1806, but the model rifle (musket) is not the same.

-Source Ramiro Larrañaga, "Synthesis of the Basque historic armory", page 214

Affectionately. Fernando K

[Fernando K]

Cerjak

Below the bread, says REI punch? (REY)

Fernando K

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Cerjak

Below the pan, says REI punch? (REY)

Fernando K

Which would mean property of the King.

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Cerjak

Below the bread, says REI punch? (REY)

Fernando K

Dear Fernando,

Thank you very much for your inputs about Garate’s punch .
I have took some additional pictures this morning ( I have just received the parcel)
There is a similar Mark behind the barrel ( REX or REY or REI)
So it seems to be a Spanish service rifle with Spanish official punches But which model is it ?
I forgot to mentioned:
Do you have pictures for a similar model ?
Overall 160 cm and caliber around 18 mm
Best
Cerjak

[Fernando K]

Cerjak

For me, this is a copy of the French model of 1717 or 1728, for infantry. The rings for the gun holder (musquet) are on the left side, and rear ring was to be placed in the hole is the left side. Regarding the front ring I can not comment because I do not see from the left side of the weapon, which could be located.

Affectionately. Fernando K

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Cerjak

For me, this is a copy of the French model of 1717 or 1728, for infantry. The rings for the gun holder (musquet) are on the left side, and rear ring was to be placed in the hole is the left side. Regarding the front ring I can not comment because I do not see from the left side of the weapon, which could be located.

Affectionately. Fernando K

Yes Fernando well seen ,this rifle is inspired from the French model 1728 and also it is possible to mount the French bayonet mod 1728 on it .

Best

Cerjak