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			Hello, 
		
		
		
			this club was sold recently by ebay, IMHO a very nice one. And it seems that I am not the only one who like it when I look to the price it reached. I want to share some pictures from the auction and want to know from where this club coming, my guess would be somewhere from Africa but I am very unsure.  | 
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			I had an eye on this piece.  I agree a very nice stick.  It is not really a club being the same size as this.  I also believe it to be East African.  It does look older than my example but not necessarily so.  I could not believe the price it went for.  Even being very nice.
		 
		
		
		
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 yes, I also was one of the low bidders. I think the price it reached was because the beautiful patination of the wood. East Africa seems to be a good guess. Regards, Detlef  | 
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			Patina is nice but not always meaning very old.  These figures look nice but I do not think they are very old.
		 
		
		
		
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			In fact I would say the stick came from the same place as this figure, when you examine the style of face carving.  From the Congo side of the great lake.
		 
		
		
		
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			No, patina don't mean that something is very old but used extensiv over years. And the patination on the stick look good and real while the patination on the figures look somewhat doutful. The patination on the stick is what ethnograhic collectors look for IMHO. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The carving on the figures look similar but the chin-beard let it look somewhat different. Anyway, it's a very nice status-stick/club. Regards, Detlef  | 
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			Hi 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The Ebay stick looks an old piece, with a good and genuine patina. From the square beard, probably Teke, Congo...  | 
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