A really cool movie

M ELEY · 19th November 2012, 05:45 AM

Has anyone seen the Russian film '1612'? I just saw it and it was pretty amazing. The cinematography alone makes it worthwhile, let alone the accuracy of the Polish armor, swords, and interestingly home-made cannon (I won't spoil it further, but will say we've discussed it in threads past). An awesome flick, if not perfect (a little choppy editing in the first half).

kronckew · 19th November 2012, 10:14 AM

i've seen bits of it on youtube. the armourers for that movie were working overtime for sure. the bits i saw were in russian. my russian vocabulary contains about 3 words. the battle scenes were great. the sabre vs. side sword duel near the end is great.

1612 trailer - a taster.

on a more humorous note, i saw the end of 'carry on up the khyber' last nite, the arms they carried were period and the khazi's right hand man carried and brandished a nice yataghan. wonder what happened to all them weapons when the studios went under.

youtube best bit LinkyLink

youtube Full movie Linky

A Senefelder · 19th November 2012, 02:28 PM

I've owned the movie for several years. The production values are excellent with the accuracy of the armour ect, being very high. While there are a few liberties with the historical storyline if we made historical based movies in the US in this fashion i'd actually bother to see them. Priori to 1612, With Fire and Sword a Polish made pair of films ( with several of the same actors in 1612 ) was right up there on my list http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Sword-Ogn...fire+and+sword

M ELEY · 20th November 2012, 02:20 AM

I hadn't heard of 'Carry On Up the Khyber', nor 'With Sword and Fire'. Thanks for the recommendation. I agree, not many good historical movies made in the U.S., but every once in awhile...

Shimmerxxx · 20th November 2012, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

on a more humorous note, i saw the end of 'carry on up the khyber' last nite, the arms they carried were period and the khazi's right hand man carried and brandished a nice yataghan. wonder what happened to all them weapons when the studios went under.

A friend of mine works in a London prop company that supplies items for movie shoots, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he has them lurking somewhere in the warehouse.

Martin Lubojacky · 20th November 2012, 10:21 AM

I think "With Sword and Fire" is one of the best films where you can see period costumes and arms and armor of the mid of 17th century (Poland, Ukraine). Polish novelist Henryk Sienkiewicz is one of the best epic writers worldwide (he received Nobel Price in Literature in 1905 I think) and Poles are well proud of him. Maybe that´s why they took a very good attention as far as the authenticity of the arms used in "his" films is concerned. Also his another good noveles were picturized - e.g. "The Deluge", "Fire in the Stepe", The Teutonic Knights" - but these are a bit older..., nevertheless nice, too.
Regards,
Martin

fernando · 15th December 2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky

I think "With Sword and Fire" is one of the best films where you can see period costumes and arms and armor of the mid of 17th century (Poland, Ukraine).

I have just seen it. Great stuff. But "1612" doesn't stay behind.
Do you guys agree ?

Martin Lubojacky · 18th December 2012, 11:27 AM

Yes Fernando, I do agree.
Best
Martin

fernando · 22nd November 2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

... Has anyone seen the Russian film '1612'? I just saw it and it was pretty amazing...

Still struggling to get the video. A couple promises but no success yet

Shimmerxxx · 22nd November 2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Still struggling to get the video. A couple promises but no success yet

Assuming that portugal is DVD region 2 / PAL, you could import from the UK.

Amazon.co.uk link here

fernando · 22nd November 2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimmerxxx

Assuming that portugal is DVD region 2 / PAL, you could import from the UK.

Amazon.co.uk link here

Thank you so much for the tip.
A friend of mine has just volunteered to send me a copy

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M ELEY · 23rd November 2012, 02:37 PM

Glad you found it, Fernando. Let us know what you think-

fernando · 6th December 2012, 06:20 PM

Thanks to my benefactor i have received two days ago the actual DVD and already saw it ... all 142 minutes of it.
One only word to classify it: fantabulous

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I didn't know they care to make films like this; it looks like this one was commissioned by some mighty antique arms enthusiast ... forget the script

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19th November 2012, 05:45 AM	#1
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	A really cool movie Has anyone seen the Russian film '1612'? I just saw it and it was pretty amazing. The cinematography alone makes it worthwhile, let alone the accuracy of the Polish armor, swords, and interestingly home-made cannon (I won't spoil it further, but will say we've discussed it in threads past). An awesome flick, if not perfect (a little choppy editing in the first half).

19th November 2012, 10:14 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,259	i've seen bits of it on youtube. the armourers for that movie were working overtime for sure. the bits i saw were in russian. my russian vocabulary contains about 3 words. the battle scenes were great. the sabre vs. side sword duel near the end is great. 1612 trailer - a taster. on a more humorous note, i saw the end of 'carry on up the khyber' last nite, the arms they carried were period and the khazi's right hand man carried and brandished a nice yataghan. wonder what happened to all them weapons when the studios went under. youtube best bit LinkyLink youtube Full movie Linky Last edited by kronckew; 19th November 2012 at 10:32 AM.

19th November 2012, 02:28 PM	#3
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	I've owned the movie for several years. The production values are excellent with the accuracy of the armour ect, being very high. While there are a few liberties with the historical storyline if we made historical based movies in the US in this fashion i'd actually bother to see them. Priori to 1612, With Fire and Sword a Polish made pair of films ( with several of the same actors in 1612 ) was right up there on my list http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Sword-Ogn...fire+and+sword

20th November 2012, 02:20 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	I hadn't heard of 'Carry On Up the Khyber', nor 'With Sword and Fire'. Thanks for the recommendation. I agree, not many good historical movies made in the U.S., but every once in awhile...

20th November 2012, 10:21 AM	#6
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 845	I think "With Sword and Fire" is one of the best films where you can see period costumes and arms and armor of the mid of 17th century (Poland, Ukraine). Polish novelist Henryk Sienkiewicz is one of the best epic writers worldwide (he received Nobel Price in Literature in 1905 I think) and Poles are well proud of him. Maybe that´s why they took a very good attention as far as the authenticity of the arms used in "his" films is concerned. Also his another good noveles were picturized - e.g. "The Deluge", "Fire in the Stepe", The Teutonic Knights" - but these are a bit older..., nevertheless nice, too. Regards, Martin

18th December 2012, 11:27 AM	#8
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 845	Yes Fernando, I do agree. Best Martin

23rd November 2012, 02:37 PM	#12
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	Glad you found it, Fernando. Let us know what you think-

6th December 2012, 06:20 PM	#13
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks to my benefactor i have received two days ago the actual DVD and already saw it ... all 142 minutes of it. One only word to classify it: fantabulous . I didn't know they care to make films like this; it looks like this one was commissioned by some mighty antique arms enthusiast ... forget the script .