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Old 13th March 2010, 08:20 PM   #1
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Default Tatarian sword translation and comments pls!

interesting sword with interesting blade ... maybe somebody can help with translation.... pls let me know your opinion on this piece!
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Old 13th March 2010, 08:47 PM   #2
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Can't help with translation.
Opinion is..... BEAUTIFUL!
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Old 13th March 2010, 08:56 PM   #3
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thanks!
I like it as well

the gold decoration on the blade is done in two ways, inlay and overlay, fittings silver, rayskin is probably later replacement, blade extremely light, laminated or kind of sham ...
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Old 14th March 2010, 12:02 AM   #4
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priori, it seems that this is not written in Arabic
might be in old Turkish or Farsi
nevertheless
- 1st "cartouche" (up) a word unknown in Arabic, follow by
"ASLI AL" either "original"

- 2nd "cartouche" "TALY KEL AMEL" the 2 last words ... no meaning in Arabic
"AMEL" either "Made"

- 3rd "cartouche" interjection "ALI YA"
"YA ALI" either "Hi Ali"

pretty sure that "Zefir" could be the right person to translate those 3 cartouches

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Old 14th March 2010, 01:49 AM   #5
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What an impressive piece!
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Old 14th March 2010, 11:23 AM   #6
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priori, it seems that this is not written in Arabic
might be in old Turkish or Farsi
nevertheless
- 1st "cartouche" (up) a word unknown in Arabic, follow by
"ASLI AL" either "original"

- 2nd "cartouche" "TALY KEL AMEL" the 2 last words ... no meaning in Arabic
"AMEL" either "Made"

- 3rd "cartouche" interjection "ALI YA"
"YA ALI" either "Hi Ali"

pretty sure that "Zefir" could be the right person to translate those 3 cartouches

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thank you Dom for help I hope Zefir will be able to translate it!
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Old 14th March 2010, 05:03 PM   #7
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Astonishing find! Top of the top and more than rare it is unique! Congrats!
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Old 15th March 2010, 06:08 PM   #8
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Although Dom in his kindness pointed me as the "right" person, I don't have much to add to his concrete translation. Some of these Caucasian-Tartar words and names are totally foreign to me

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priori, it seems that this is not written in Arabic
might be in old Turkish or Farsi
nevertheless
- 1st "cartouche" (up) a word unknown in Arabic, follow by
"ASLI AL" either "original"

- 2nd "cartouche" "TALY KEL AMEL" the 2 last words ... no meaning in Arabic
"AMEL" either "Made"

- 3rd "cartouche" interjection "ALI YA"
"YA ALI" either "Hi Ali"

pretty sure that "Zefir" could be the right person to translate those 3 cartouches

à +

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Old 15th March 2010, 06:20 PM   #9
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thank you ALL for comments , the sword is really nice and I think the best balanced among the swords I have had in my hands... Pity that it is hard translate the cartoushe, well I did not expect something outstanding but... it is always nice to discover those kinds of mysteries
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