Translation help needed: Arabic cartouche

[Atlantia]

Hi Guys,
Think I've picked up a nice piece of associated metalware to help display the collection!
Can anyone hlep with a translation of this cartouche?
Regards
Gene

[Atlantia]

Am I seeing a 1312 date?

[ariel]

You are :-)

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by ariel

You are :-)

Cheers Ariel
Would you make that 1895 in new money?

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Am I seeing a 1312 date?

absolutely correcte

but the translation isn't easy
may be concerning a black-smith or blade-smith,
not arab, could be Persian ?

the cartouche mention;
- AMAL ALI ???

translated by
- MADE BY ALI ????

ALI being the favorite name for Chiites, that may give an idea
but echec to translate the other name

à +

Dom (from NAS Fallon - Nevada)

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Dom

absolutely correcte

but the translation isn't easy
may be concerning a black-smith or blade-smith,
not arab, could be Persian ?

the cartouche mention;
- AMAL ALI ???

translated by
- MADE BY ALI ????

ALI being the favorite name for Chiites, that may give an idea
but echec to translate the other name

à +

Dom (from NAS Fallon - Nevada)

Thanks Dom, yes it my well be a Persian piece, sorry
My date is right though is it =1895?
LOL, wonder if its the same 'ali' who made my Persian Shamshir
Any ideas on the rest?

Regards
Gene

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Thanks Dom, yes it my well be a Persian piece, sorry
My date is right though is it =1895?
LOL, wonder if its the same 'ali' who made my Persian Shamshir
Any ideas on the rest?

Regards
Gene

Hi Gene
for the date, no doubt = 1895

but to have more ideas with just a pic of very small part (cartouche, no more) of that ??
dagger ?? sword ?? battle axe ??

could be the same than to give an appreciation
about a woman from her hand picture

à +

Dom (from SF CA, trip mainly ended)

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Dom

Hi Gene
for the date, no doubt = 1895

but to have more ideas with just a pic of very small part (cartouche, no more) of that ??
dagger ?? sword ?? battle axe ??

could be the same than to give an appreciation
about a woman from her hand picture

à +

Dom (from SF CA, trip mainly ended)

Hello Dom,

Thanks for the reply, you want to see the whole 'item'...
LOL, its not so much a sword, or a dagger.... Or an Axe.

Its kind of more a tray for me to display some daggers on.


I really like bronze and brass, this is a bronze tray, 53cm/37.5cm, absolutely covered in beautiful carved designs. One of the best I've seen.