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			I have bought Ottoman dagger (jambiya?). Its really big,  about 48cm long, and has a nice watered steel blade. On one side of the blade there is an arabic text and on the other side a date. The last digit in the date is halfway gone but I do think its a nine. As far as I can tell it would be 1219 = 1804, correct? 
		
		
		
			I have no idea what the text might say, but there might be someone on the forum that could read it. If you can, and want to I would very much appriciate a translation to english (or swedish .   Regards Peter Last edited by Drabant1701; 13th March 2018 at 10:01 PM.  | 
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			I love the wootz! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Not sure the scabbard and hilt are original to each other though. Yes Ottoman jambiya.  | 
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 Strangly they are uniform on both sides   Edit: Found at blade with similar difference in color, makes me think its been heat treated. https://www.instagram.com/p/BVkbZ8kg...-by=mkantiques The scabbard and hilt do look like they dont match, maybe they dont. But this is pretty similar. http://armsandantiques.com/19th-c-si...a-dagger-md428 Last edited by Drabant1701; 14th March 2018 at 11:13 AM.  | 
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			Very nice. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The date is 121(9?), corresponding in the worst possible case to 1804-1805. Full silver scabbard is likely original.  | 
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			Great dagger. Absolutely beautiful wootz. The scabbard and general shape look Eastern Turkish, Kurdish influenced.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	There is one thing I have to add though. As you said yourself, it might have been "treated" at some later date. The perfect state of the koftgiri + these light patches are a bit suspicious and may suggest the the koftgiri has been re-done at some point.  | 
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 I am not experienced enough to judge of the koftgari is re-done. My guess is that it is period to the dagger. I have a couple of ottoman pieces with koftgari, one of them a sword from the same period with koftgari that is in very good condition. From what I have seen this type of koftgari seem to be very resistant to wear, and may well look very good after 200 years. After 3 years of collecting I am however starting to realize that not much is certain when collecting "oriental" arms and I am allways open to revalute and learn from those with more experience.  | 
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