A Very Rare Early 16th Century Small Alcove Cannon (Nischengeschütz)

Matchlock · 26th July 2009, 07:52 PM

Wrought iron and oak wood. Overall length 40.6 cm, barrel length 19.8 cm (including bent stick), cal. 25 mm, weight 4 kg.

That (now short) round barrel was originally part of a long wrought iron Nuremberg haquebut with a long iron grip stick made in ca. 1500. It got probably damaged in its early working life and, as a consequence, got shortened and restocked in oak in is present form during the Peasant Wars in 1523-5 (Nischengeschütz, small alcove cannon).

Believe it or not, it is fastened to the wood with three bolts and nuts. Screwing nuts have been around since at least the late 15th century.

I attach some photos taken 20 years ago. I do have a new digital camera now but for some reason or other the USB connection does not seem to fit my computer. As soon as I can make somebody get here and fix this I will post better images.

I also iclude images of a very similar barrel of ca. 1500 which is preserved in its original unaltered shape at the Bavarian Army Museum. These images are owed to Robert Brooker.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 27th July 2009, 11:24 PM

Last barrel is amasing! what is the mass of this? Do you have a hight quality photo?

Matchlock · 28th July 2009, 01:06 PM

The measurements are as the text states:

barrel length 83 cm, cal. 23 mm.

These are the only photos I have.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

The measurements are as the text states:

barrel length 83 cm, cal. 23 mm.

These are the only photos I have.

Best,
Michael

Is it 1500 or 1480 year?

Matchlock · 28th July 2009, 02:50 PM

It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote.

Michael

Spiridonov · 28th July 2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote.

Michael

why did you dated so? Do you have photos of another wallguns of 1470-80?

26th July 2009, 07:52 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Very Rare Early 16th Century Small Alcove Cannon (Nischengeschütz) Wrought iron and oak wood. Overall length 40.6 cm, barrel length 19.8 cm (including bent stick), cal. 25 mm, weight 4 kg. That (now short) round barrel was originally part of a long wrought iron Nuremberg haquebut with a long iron grip stick made in ca. 1500. It got probably damaged in its early working life and, as a consequence, got shortened and restocked in oak in is present form during the Peasant Wars in 1523-5 (Nischengeschütz, small alcove cannon). Believe it or not, it is fastened to the wood with three bolts and nuts. Screwing nuts have been around since at least the late 15th century. I attach some photos taken 20 years ago. I do have a new digital camera now but for some reason or other the USB connection does not seem to fit my computer. As soon as I can make somebody get here and fix this I will post better images. I also iclude images of a very similar barrel of ca. 1500 which is preserved in its original unaltered shape at the Bavarian Army Museum. These images are owed to Robert Brooker. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 26th July 2009 at 08:28 PM.

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27th July 2009, 11:24 PM	#2
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Last barrel is amasing! what is the mass of this? Do you have a hight quality photo?

28th July 2009, 01:06 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The measurements are as the text states: barrel length 83 cm, cal. 23 mm. These are the only photos I have. Best, Michael

28th July 2009, 02:50 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	It can be dated to ca. 1500 quite exactly as I wrote. Michael