2 Kujang for comment

Athanase · 17th December 2016, 08:14 PM

Hello,

Here are my two Kujang.

The first has no handle and sheath. The blade has an almost invisible pamor. It's very worn and looks quite old. (Excavation find? or number ritual washing?). Unless it is a Kujang from the second half of the XXth century artificially aged to sell it as antique?

The second Kujang has a nice wooden sheath, covered with a thin sheet of white metal (it don't look like silver, but rather aluminum or ??)
The handle is made of buffalo horn. The animal represented on the scabbard and the handle seems to be the Makara.
The blade is much less damaged than the first Kujang. It's still covered with rust, but I just receive it. I'd wash the blade tomorrow.

Sajen · 17th December 2016, 10:22 PM

Hello Athanase,

in my opinion are both "original", what Alan has written in #2 by this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sajen is legal also for kujangs. The first one you have shown seems to be much older as the second example which is very nice with it's mounts, a very nice example. When you boring it one day you can send it to me!

The metal cover will be some sort of german silver, I would rule out aluminium.

Regards,
Detlef

zeus74 · 18th December 2016, 12:08 AM

hello, nice to see this. i'm indonesian.
maybe later i'll post my kujang photos before and after ritual wash. there are new labor and old one.

A. G. Maisey · 18th December 2016, 07:42 AM

Has the metal been tested to see if it is silver? It looks like silver to me. The common metal that looks like silver is mamas, but judging the thickness of this metal from the hole in it, it is too thin for mamas.

17th December 2016, 08:14 PM	#1
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 428	2 Kujang for comment Hello, Here are my two Kujang. The first has no handle and sheath. The blade has an almost invisible pamor. It's very worn and looks quite old. (Excavation find? or number ritual washing?). Unless it is a Kujang from the second half of the XXth century artificially aged to sell it as antique? The second Kujang has a nice wooden sheath, covered with a thin sheet of white metal (it don't look like silver, but rather aluminum or ??) The handle is made of buffalo horn. The animal represented on the scabbard and the handle seems to be the Makara. The blade is much less damaged than the first Kujang. It's still covered with rust, but I just receive it. I'd wash the blade tomorrow. Attached Images

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17th December 2016, 10:22 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Hello Athanase, in my opinion are both "original", what Alan has written in #2 by this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sajen is legal also for kujangs. The first one you have shown seems to be much older as the second example which is very nice with it's mounts, a very nice example. When you boring it one day you can send it to me! The metal cover will be some sort of german silver, I would rule out aluminium. Regards, Detlef

18th December 2016, 12:08 AM	#3
zeus74 Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 7	hello, nice to see this. i'm indonesian. maybe later i'll post my kujang photos before and after ritual wash. there are new labor and old one.

18th December 2016, 07:42 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Has the metal been tested to see if it is silver? It looks like silver to me. The common metal that looks like silver is mamas, but judging the thickness of this metal from the hole in it, it is too thin for mamas.