Junggayan Kris

Spunjer · 17th April 2005, 12:17 PM

whoooo boy! this one went off the richter scale last night. i already had plans on what worldly possession i was ready to liquidate to pay for it, but still, it passed my high bid like a 2 hour late amtrak:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6524686271

it was nice, tho. junggayan with appears to be silver discs all over, anting-anting/agimat on the blade and also what appears to be a nice pattern (like rsword's) lamination in the fuller. the base of the ferrule looks like brass, and it looks like it has silver braids around it. the handle is a mystery. congrats, oriental-arms...

Battara · 17th April 2005, 03:18 PM

I worked on a similar hilt last year - the pommel was large ivroy with silver pins all over it in a similar style. I was to replace some missing gild brass and silver rings. This one is a good piece. Not my style of pommel, but the rest is nice. The way prices have been going, I think this is a fair market value for this piece, especially since everything looks complete. I could even see this going higher with an original scabbard. Thanks for bringing this up - I misssed it.

Rick · 17th April 2005, 03:38 PM

What a beauty !
It could have been a Saturday night sleeper in the good old days . <sigh>
I was in there but only as a fruitless gesture .
I was not going to let someone walk off with that piece for under $500.00 .

Spunjer · 17th April 2005, 03:50 PM

my high bid was $502.01...

nechesh · 17th April 2005, 07:07 PM

Well, it looks like at least 3 of our forumites were interested in this kris, with at least 2 willing to go well over $1000 for it. The obvious drawing points are the beautiful ivory jungayan and the nice talismanic blade engravings, but i'm not so sure even at this point that i would be willing to call this "fair" market value for this piece, though, as always, i guess that is determined by the collector. But seeing this piece, even without a scabbard, going for this kind of money breaks the heart of this poor (i refer to $s) collector. Especially given the low quality of the photographs. But Artzi has a good eye and i am sure he saw something that really drew his attention. Hopefully he will post some better pics when he receives the piece.

Ian · 17th April 2005, 07:25 PM

Never underestimate Artzi -- his eye is as good as it gets.

He told me at Timonium this year that he has made mistakes over the years (haven't we all

) but I doubt this is one of them. Somehow I think Artzi's "mistakes" would probably be a good deal for most of us.

For a dealer, the art is in the buying, not the selling.

I hope he will put up some pictures of a few of his recent acquisitions.

Ian.

17th April 2005, 12:17 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Junggayan Kris whoooo boy! this one went off the richter scale last night. i already had plans on what worldly possession i was ready to liquidate to pay for it, but still, it passed my high bid like a 2 hour late amtrak: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6524686271 it was nice, tho. junggayan with appears to be silver discs all over, anting-anting/agimat on the blade and also what appears to be a nice pattern (like rsword's) lamination in the fuller. the base of the ferrule looks like brass, and it looks like it has silver braids around it. the handle is a mystery. congrats, oriental-arms...

17th April 2005, 03:18 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	I worked on a similar hilt last year - the pommel was large ivroy with silver pins all over it in a similar style. I was to replace some missing gild brass and silver rings. This one is a good piece. Not my style of pommel, but the rest is nice. The way prices have been going, I think this is a fair market value for this piece, especially since everything looks complete. I could even see this going higher with an original scabbard. Thanks for bringing this up - I misssed it.

17th April 2005, 03:38 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	What a beauty ! It could have been a Saturday night sleeper in the good old days . <sigh> I was in there but only as a fruitless gesture . I was not going to let someone walk off with that piece for under $500.00 .

17th April 2005, 03:50 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	my high bid was $502.01...

17th April 2005, 07:07 PM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Well, it looks like at least 3 of our forumites were interested in this kris, with at least 2 willing to go well over $1000 for it. The obvious drawing points are the beautiful ivory jungayan and the nice talismanic blade engravings, but i'm not so sure even at this point that i would be willing to call this "fair" market value for this piece, though, as always, i guess that is determined by the collector. But seeing this piece, even without a scabbard, going for this kind of money breaks the heart of this poor (i refer to $s) collector. Especially given the low quality of the photographs. But Artzi has a good eye and i am sure he saw something that really drew his attention. Hopefully he will post some better pics when he receives the piece.

17th April 2005, 07:25 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,515	Never underestimate Artzi -- his eye is as good as it gets. He told me at Timonium this year that he has made mistakes over the years (haven't we all ) but I doubt this is one of them. Somehow I think Artzi's "mistakes" would probably be a good deal for most of us. For a dealer, the art is in the buying, not the selling. I hope he will put up some pictures of a few of his recent acquisitions. Ian.