Bronze aceh shield with islamic inscriptions

Mytribalworld · 4th December 2007, 02:54 PM

Hi there,

Last week I found this Aceh shield size 37 cm round.
the decorations are very detailed but what more unusual is the islamic inscriptions. Can any help me with the translation?

Arjan.

Mytribalworld · 4th December 2007, 02:56 PM

some more pics

asomotif · 5th December 2007, 12:00 PM

Mmmm...

Normally I would not be impressed by writing on Aceh items.
I only see them on new made rencongs.

But this shield is not new made at all.

Maybe Alam Shah can assist ?

Ps. note that the text is not engraved or anything, it is actually casted with the shield.

Dom · 5th December 2007, 03:12 PM

Hi Arjan

you have to ;
- present your pics after an horzontal rotation to be readable
- found a translator in "farsi" because if the alphabet is arabic, not the language, and by that way, the inscriptions are not islamic

sorry if nothing more to help

regards

à +

Dom

Dajak · 5th December 2007, 05:58 PM

I like to now if any museum has this type off shield in their collection or there is an pic that an Atjeh warrior carry one.

I never found one .

Ben

Mytribalworld · 6th December 2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

I like to now if any museum has this type off shield in their collection or there is an pic that an Atjeh warrior carry one.

I never found one .

Ben

Hi ben ,

I found some on the site from Leiden.
but as far as I can see without inscriptions.

asomotif · 6th December 2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

or there is an pic that an Atjeh warrior carry one.

Based on the pictures I know, real warriors only carried rottan shields covered with textile and brass stars.

But than again, there not so many pictures of Atjeh warriors.

VVV · 6th December 2007, 03:29 PM

This one looks like a brass shield.
Nice shield btw Arjan!

Michael

Dajak · 6th December 2007, 05:12 PM

Hi Michael that is an Rattan shield covered with textiles
Like Willem means .

Ben

asomotif · 6th December 2007, 05:39 PM

Yep, the textile is under the stars and the nails.

I only know 1 shield with the textile still there and that is in the 'Legermuseum' in Delft.

Sadly their website does not have any pictures.

Dajak · 6th December 2007, 05:45 PM

Willem you schould visit Nijmegen they have enough.
I have also one you see the textile under the stars .

Ben

asomotif · 6th December 2007, 06:11 PM

I see you can provide with the pictures from Nijmegen. So that is nice too.

4th December 2007, 02:54 PM	#1
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	Bronze aceh shield with islamic inscriptions Hi there, Last week I found this Aceh shield size 37 cm round. the decorations are very detailed but what more unusual is the islamic inscriptions. Can any help me with the translation? Arjan. Attached Images

4th December 2007, 02:56 PM	#2
Mytribalworld Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 400	some more pics Attached Images

5th December 2007, 12:00 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Islam inscriptions. Mmmm... Normally I would not be impressed by writing on Aceh items. I only see them on new made rencongs. But this shield is not new made at all. Maybe Alam Shah can assist ? Ps. note that the text is not engraved or anything, it is actually casted with the shield.

5th December 2007, 03:12 PM	#4
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Hi Arjan you have to ; - present your pics after an horzontal rotation to be readable - found a translator in "farsi" because if the alphabet is arabic, not the language, and by that way, the inscriptions are not islamic sorry if nothing more to help regards à + Dom Last edited by Dom; 6th December 2007 at 01:50 AM.

6th December 2007, 03:29 PM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	This one looks like a brass shield. Nice shield btw Arjan! Michael Attached Images

5th December 2007, 05:58 PM	#5
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	I like to now if any museum has this type off shield in their collection or there is an pic that an Atjeh warrior carry one. I never found one . Ben

6th December 2007, 05:12 PM	#9
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael that is an Rattan shield covered with textiles Like Willem means . Ben Attached Images Last edited by Dajak; 6th December 2007 at 05:41 PM.

6th December 2007, 05:39 PM	#10
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Yep, the textile is under the stars and the nails. I only know 1 shield with the textile still there and that is in the 'Legermuseum' in Delft. Sadly their website does not have any pictures. Attached Images

6th December 2007, 05:45 PM	#11
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Willem you schould visit Nijmegen they have enough. I have also one you see the textile under the stars . Ben

6th December 2007, 06:11 PM	#12
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	I see you can provide with the pictures from Nijmegen. So that is nice too.