Another ancestor figure example for ID

DaveA · 21st June 2020, 12:41 AM

This one I have not received yet. I'm fairly confident the hilt (at least) is Batak, but the name/style is not clear. The scabbard seems unusual and might not be original

Your thoughts?

Dave A.

Battara · 21st June 2020, 01:10 AM

Oh I'd say pretty Batak.

Sajen · 21st June 2020, 09:03 AM

Yes, it's Batak style but I doubt that this knife has any serious age, I would say it's worked to cheat, sorry!

Regards,
Detlef

DaveA · 21st June 2020, 10:28 PM

Thank you Detlef,

I was an inexpensive bet. I would be grateful to learn the most important clues that led to your conclusion.

Dave A.

Sajen · 22nd June 2020, 12:28 AM

Hello Dave,

The blade has the wrong form, the scabbard is wrong, the patination somewhat odd. The handle look good, nice carved. Sure I only can be when handling the piece but I am very skeptical.

Regards,
Detlef

DaveA · 9th July 2020, 02:20 AM

I received the item and the poor qualities were immediately clear. The seller was quite miffed by my objections but eventually agreed to a full refund on the condition that I never do business with them again.

Thank you all for your early opinions.

Dave A.

Ian · 9th July 2020, 09:59 AM

Well done Dave! It can be very hard to get a seller to take something back, even when the item is clearly sold as something it is not. I take it that not dealing with this seller again is no great burden for you.

21st June 2020, 12:41 AM	#1
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 432	Another ancestor figure example for ID This one I have not received yet. I'm fairly confident the hilt (at least) is Batak, but the name/style is not clear. The scabbard seems unusual and might not be original Your thoughts? Dave A. Attached Images

21st June 2020, 10:28 PM	#4
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 432	Clues Thank you Detlef, I was an inexpensive bet. I would be grateful to learn the most important clues that led to your conclusion. Dave A.

9th July 2020, 02:20 AM	#6
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 432	Returned I received the item and the poor qualities were immediately clear. The seller was quite miffed by my objections but eventually agreed to a full refund on the condition that I never do business with them again. Thank you all for your early opinions. Dave A.

21st June 2020, 01:10 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Oh I'd say pretty Batak.

21st June 2020, 09:03 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Yes, it's Batak style but I doubt that this knife has any serious age, I would say it's worked to cheat, sorry! Regards, Detlef

22nd June 2020, 12:28 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Hello Dave, The blade has the wrong form, the scabbard is wrong, the patination somewhat odd. The handle look good, nice carved. Sure I only can be when handling the piece but I am very skeptical. Regards, Detlef

9th July 2020, 09:59 AM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,515	Well done Dave! It can be very hard to get a seller to take something back, even when the item is clearly sold as something it is not. I take it that not dealing with this seller again is no great burden for you.