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Old 3rd April 2021, 12:09 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Not my call David, I cannot tell Bugis style keris nor dress from one place from Bugis style keris or dress from any other place.

I have seen some copies of Bugis dress made in Bali, made in Surabaya, and made somewhere else in Jawa. It looks the same as the real deal but there are minor differences in construction

However, Ahmad Ubbe, Andi Irwan Zulfikar & Dray Vibrianto Senewe are respected collectors of Bugis edged weapons, they authored "Senjata Pusaka Bugis". In this book they attribute keris with pendok having the same and comparable motifs to the one being discussed here to South Sulawesi.

In fact, in this book, keris that I would place squarely in the Peninsula or in the Eastern Islands are attributed to South Sulawesi. I do not have a particularly high regard for Bugis keris, they do not directly relate to my specific area of enquiry, thus over the years I have not paid much attention to them. I'm afraid that long contact with Central Javanese attitudes has had some effect upon my own ideas.

So I am not claiming that this pendok is from South Sulawesi, I am only advising that the joint opinion of three experienced, specialist Bugis collectors classify pendoks with motifs like this one as being of South Sulawesi origin.
Well Alan, this Minangkabau keris crossed my screen this morning, posted by a friend on another forum. I don't see much chance that this keris had a Sulawesi pendok added to it later. The entire ensemble looks pretty original to me and clearly from Sumatra. So i think i might have to dismiss your Sulawesi experts on this one.
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