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Old 26th October 2023, 09:57 PM   #69
Peter Hudson
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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall View Post
This is a magnificent painting of a most tragic event, and these polearms of course appear to be actual scythes in the field tool category being used as weapons. The use of field implements as weapons as is, rather than the ploughshares, files etc. repurposed into edged weapons, was actually of course commonplace through time. In this painting, the weapons held resemble more the bardische (in first attachment the Austrian type). These varied widely, but like the scythe, were likely field implements as required. While not typically noted in military accounts, the rather menial task of foraging to feed animals likely had weapons like these used in such context.

In early armies, the masses of forces were typically huge numbers of peasantry who served more as 'cannon fodder' in the huge fields of battle. Naturally, these men used whatever tools or implements they had as arms and armor were expensive and typically owned and used by well heeled individuals and those of standing or station.
Many of these implements became various forms of polearm from the bills, and various types of field implements which became the basis for these types of arms.

What comes to mind is that the familiar 'sickle' marks (dual dentated arcs) which are well known on sword blades, originally associated with Genoa but later widely copied, may well have represented blade makers, who made tools as well as weapons. This may have been the source of the colloquially used term for them.

With the sickle, which apparantly were hafted as well as pole mounted, these were of course effective weapons typically, with use pole mounted more viable for the fighter on foot to reach mounted men attacking.

The well known Lochaber axe of Scotland (last image) is of course pole mounted in the manner of the scythe, and equipped with a hook, to catch and pull the rider down. Another form of such weapon in Scotland was the Jedwart stave, in 16th c. but soon lost favor as it was too light to be effective in this manner.

Returning to the use of the sickle, it seems edged weapons of these forms have ancient representation as well, even the khopesh of Egypt seems a form of sickle type weapon (these well discussed and illustrated by Peter in the text here, just wanted to reiterate here).
In more modern times in Africa, the sickle swords of the Azande in Zaire (along with their throwing knives) as well as the Abyssinian shotel are said to have been used in the same type of 'hooking' manner to pull a shield away from a warrior to open him for spear thrust. (image with blue backing Azande; the other the shotel).

Pragmatically, it is widely held that most sickle type edged weapons were used in this manner in degree, however as deadly cutting weapons the effect would be obvious. With most rank and file often not military, but farmers and field workers, they needed no training in the use of these arms.
Hello Jim and thank you for posting this informative detail. I covered earlier how this strange sounding device appeared to have been wrongly named in history and how it became Scythe rather than perhaps Sithe. (# 44 and #45 of this thread refers.) But leaving the infamous whats in a name connundrum to one side ...I had been chasing something of a rumour about a scythe being used in the Jacobite campaign in 1745 ... Actully I noted that the date of Prestonpans was 1745 on my recent post above but when I went back to my post on the subject I must have missed the opportunity to make the relevant connection thus it still shows my error on the date that I hurriedly must have typed as 1746...Oops!

On the topic of Artwork showing the demise of the Commanding Officer of The English 13th Regiment it has been difficult to view the Artistic impressions available but the Account in the book by Allan Mallinson appears to be precise ...and in that two weapons in particular had been key to bringing down the CO from his horse...The Scythe ...and then his death by a second highlander using an axe probably the famous Jedburgh Axe ... Certainly the picture I have now found below has in it a very clear image of what can only be A Scythe and typically refitted on a long pole was how the commander, Colonel Gardiner of The 13th was knocked off his horse. Interestingly the Artist has placed a highlander right behind the Scytheman carrying one of those axes. The Painting is from https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/y...g&action=click

Regards, Peter Hudson.
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