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Originally Posted by Ed
Thank you for your thoughts.
An incorrect assumption is that Iron was not worked at an early date in China and that any barrel that is of iron would, necessarily, have to have been made in Europe. This is wrong as I discovered in conversations with various folks who have expertise in eastern technology.
The identification of these sorts of barrels remains an open question.
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Hi Ed,
Thanks for the comments.
Yes, it looks like the Chinese started with a
bamboo cannon (early 12th century), and not a metal one.
However, the Chinese quickly 'graduated' to a metal-barreled cannon by the late 12th century --
"Gunpower: Along with the silk and paper, gunpowder is another invention by Chinese and the Silk Road helped it spread to the west. The dating of gunpowder is as early as 850 A.D. ... The gunpowder used for military purpose was first recorded in 919 A.D. By the 11th century, explosive bombs filled with gunpowder and fired from catapults were introduced and used in China. The words "fire cannon", "rocket", "missile" and "fireball" appeared time and again in the official Song history as well as two other books written during the same period. The first detailed description of using "firing cannon" in warfare was in connection with a battle fought in 1126 when the Song army used it against the invading Nuchens. The so-called fire cannon was a tube made of bamboo filled with gunpowder which, when fired, threw a flaming missile towards the enemy ... According to a description of a battle scene in 1132, it took two persons to carry a "fire cannon" ...
"The early account of gunpowder in Europe was recorded by English philosopher Roger Bacon in the 13th century. One century later the Arabs used it to attack the Spanish town Baza and the very next year in 1326 Florence ordered the manufacturing of cannon and cannon balls. From Italy the making of gunpowder soon spread to other European countries, and by the 1350s it had become an effective weapon on the battlefield.
"Origin of Gun: The Chinese adapted their primitive catapults to eventually develop a true gun with a metal barrel, gunpowder and a projectile by the 12th century. It is believed that the first gun was found in the early 1970s at Pan-la-ch'eng-tzu village, Manchuria, and dated to around 1290 A.D."
The picture below are samples of the earliest cannons of ancient China.