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					Originally Posted by celtan
					
				 
				Hi Nando, 
 
I don't see why you inherently preclude its use as a military weapon... 
			
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 No, i don't  

 ; discoverers and military, were a symbiosis... right?
It is to deprehend that, signaling with actual cannons was an inadequate procedure; soon the need for something more practical gave place to these portable noise makers.
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					Originally Posted by celtan
					
				 
				 ...Soldiers sometimes even made diagonal holes in the ground, filled them with BP and a stone, or other projectile, and fired them in large numbers in  the general direction of the enemy... 
			
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 Fantastic; any method is good for making war 

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Fernando