|  15th November 2008, 02:20 PM | #7 | 
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				Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking 
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				 Clay grenades in the Veste (castle) Oberhaus, Passau, Eastern Bavaria 
 
			
			17th century, smaller and of much lighter weight than the ones dug up in Ingolstadt.
 
 A huge iron throwing ball for a catapult above and a pair of mid 16th century miniature cannon below.
 
 Michael
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