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					Originally Posted by PenangsangII
					
				 
				... Methink, Persians (Aryans) were known to be among the first who used damascene pattern forging of weapons. They also used wavy swords - but to accommodate the local environment, the wavy damascened swords had to go thru evolution, hence the keris we see today. Of course, this theory is not absolute, but logical. 
			
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 Actually, we have covered this sometime back... do read this article, written by Mr Alan Maisey... [ 
link ]. I suggest bro Sepokal, you'll do likewise... do give it some thought, afterwhich, we can continue discussion if you like. 
 
 
Bro Sepokal, as for the "Majapahit" / Sajen keris examples... do check it out [ 
here ].