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					Originally Posted by  Ian
					 
				 
				 Similarly, I've not seen the "turtle" mark or those spine markings on "antique" swords. Always willing to be proven wrong.    
			
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 Hi Ian,
So far I know is this turtle mark (so is this marking called by collectors in South-East-Asia) an old mark from this region, here are a few examples.
Regards,
Detlef