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but coming back to the point

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of holding it what's the fundamental

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problem with holding a basket hilt

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well this varies slightly depending on

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the size of the basket the length of the

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hilt the style of the pummel blah blah

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blah

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various reasons but fundamentally if

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you're used to holding it like a sable

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with the thumb up you usually don't have

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space to in a basket hilt although some

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do

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and therefore it makes it more difficult

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to align the point for a dir direct uh

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thrust or lunge

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thrust with the lunge rather

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so it can make thrusting a little bit

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more inconvenient for someone who's

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trained in for example small sword and

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spadrone methods which you can apply to

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saber

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and additionally it does mean now if we

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specifically come down to these two

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sidebars at the bottom here it does mean

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that those two bars do when you extend

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the sword fully out will clash with the

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bottom of the hand to some extent and

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this does arguably perhaps lead you to

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cutting in a style which is more similar

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to certain for example viking era swords

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or indeed talwars and things like this

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where you leave an angle between the

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blade and the sword and again i've

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talked about these in previous videos so

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i'm not going to labor those points but

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specifically in the victorian area we

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start to see concessions start to be

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made to baskets

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to enable someone to use them more how

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they were trained to use a saber and it

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should be mentioned that the same

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manuals were applied to these as were

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applied to saber there weren't separate

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manuals for basket hills for highland

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officers there weren't enough of them to

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really warrant that being

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economical indeed they were expected to

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use the exact same saber method that you

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used sabers with now

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these sidebars start to go through an

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adaptation in the 19th century that we

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see and we do occasionally see this

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earlier and i've shown earlier

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period tools that sometimes have this

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and in fact something like a schiavona

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or a 1788 pattern heavy cavalry hilt

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gets around this by having these

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sidebars instead of joining the pommel

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as is the scottish fashion down here

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they actually all converge at the front

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and join at the front if that happens

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you can now hold the sword like a saber

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in something with the thumb up more like

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a sort of almost a pistol grip which you

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can't really do conveniently with this

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sword but you will notice that these

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sidebars here

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don't

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come in at 90 degrees as earlier ones

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tend to do and in fact even if we go to

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an english mortuary hilted sword of the

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17th century then they tend to connect

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at the side at 90 degrees and that

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prevents you extending the side of the

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hand along the side of the pommel

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because it's blocked by that bar there

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and you'll notice that these bars now

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are starting to come down at more of an

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angle this is a wilkinson example

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from the 1850s now if i swap over to

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this other example by an unknown maker

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you will notice if i just lift the

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tassel up which is part of that you will

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notice on this example they've gone even

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further with it

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and now the bars are connecting really

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quite near the front here and that means

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that the side of the pommel if i can

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just get it to focus there we go the

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side of the pommel there is now clear

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which means indeed that i can start to

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hold this sword at an angle more like

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that because it's now got space for my

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hand to pass at the side of the pommel

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so that's one solution and this is

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essentially a victorian adaptation to

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make the highland basket hilt more

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usable for people who were more used to

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using sabers for example or perhaps even

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spadroons