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			Thank you jagabuwana for reviving this topic and thank you Alan for your detailed explanation.
 I would like to have further clarification though:
 
 Does it means that if we have two ahli Keris (who both have achieved level 3 understanding) appraising a Keris then they would most likely agree in terms of tangguh, but might have a completely different feeling  about the Keris? Or both would still recognize/feel the force of the Keris but the interpretation might differ?
 
 Thank you.
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