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					Originally Posted by  Jim McDougall
					 
				 
				...It seems we have been remiss in not formally welcoming Roger to the forum... 
			
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 Not really (per post #2) 
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					Originally Posted by  Jim McDougall
					 
				 
				 ... It should be noted as far as 'Spanish style', in the mid 17th century, Toledo was effectively in decline... 
			
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 Is that so, Jim ? Do you mean the center or the masters ?. Sebastian Hernandez was active in the 1630's and showing his mastership; this cited by Palomares and Estruch, ... rigth ?