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					Originally Posted by Sajen  ,,,, 
The second one was sold for a high price by a German auction not long ago, I think it's a Brazil knife. This is something I would like to own.    
Regards, 
 Detlef | 
	
 Hi Detlef:
Looking at the second example that you posted, I'm struck by the long "ricasso" of what looks like an embellished brass collar. The appearance reminds me of a Spanish puņal from the late 18th/19th C . I've posted a picture of one from Ashoka Arts sold page, and another that I have.
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