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					Originally Posted by  Jim McDougall
					 
				 
				... The idea of the stylized '3' at this point for me is a bit out of reach, the image of the punzone is too pixelated for me to make out, also it is clearly much degenerated.  
However, the 3 as a mark or element of punzone makers mark in Toledo seems to exist, and not only to Sebastian Hernandez, who has two recorded (59,60). ..but also Ignacio Fernandez (#69). What is puzzling is that it is a number, while many others use capital letters which seem to have nothing to do with the initials of the maker represented... 
			
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 Jim you mean 89,90 

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I thought that the odds have shown us that the stylized figure is not a '3' but a 'Z', as approached now and a while back 

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And yes, the foggy pictures provided show no evidence of the discussed mark being that of one of the suggested smiths, also as here approached 

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