Kai, when I read your post #34 I was a bit confused as to which item you considered to be a "wesi lima". I could not find my Jogja Kraton book to check the original photo in the book, but I have found it now, and I'm still confused. 
 
Could you please tell us exactly which item you consider to be a "wesi lima", and why? 
 
Thank you.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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