Yes, I am aware.  However even your last reference lists them as Schnitzler&Kirschbaum (imo both of whom were agents, not makers/smiths), and not listed as K&S aside from that one source. 
 
At any rate, have you any reference books listing Helvig at all? 
 
I have only Bezdek, Wagner and the various fora for German marks, let alone much regarding Alsace. 
 
Cheers 
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