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					Originally Posted by mariusgmioc
					
				 Hello Miguel, 
In my oppinion they are both North Indian. The first one second half of 20th century (meaning recent), the second one possibly a couple of decades older.
 
What is the difference between a Karud and a straight Pesh-kabz?    | 
	
 Hello Marius, thank you for your reply I was leaning towards India myself but was unsure also welcome was your dating for which I am obliged.
I do not know what the difference is between a straight backed pesh kabz and a karud but I think Ariel has answered the question in his reply.
Regards
Miguel