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					Originally Posted by harrywagner
					
				 Thank you. Please feel free to help us by saying what dates you think these were made. I won't be offended. This was never about how old these were to begin with. It was about their decoration technique. Somehow we have gotten side-tracked. However, now that we are here, I will say I believe these are not recent manufacture based on the blade. My two look like old Wootz. Everything I see on that auction site has what I would call 'pattern' steel.
 My apologies if I have offended.
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 Sorry, I think our posts must haven gotten crossed in the mail. I appreciate your help. Thank you.