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					Originally Posted by Ian
					
				 Hi Detlef: 
Sorry Detlef, not from a tenegre  nor likely Visayan in my opinion (although the beveled edge is suggestive). That big "step" at forte (where the blade abruptly narrows) is not a feature of Visayan swords, even those from Negros that somewhat resemble the blade on the subject of this thread (see, for example, http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6658 ). 
 
I agree that the blade is not typical of a kalasan  or balato , but I was trying to point to other slim, long-bladed swords that might have a similar ferrule and makara  hilt. The makara  is not a Visayan motif, and really suggests Indonesia.
 
The silver ferrule (punto ) is plain and non-specific--could be Moro but could be from a number of other places too.
 
Possibly a marriage of pieces from various places. The pin through the horn hilt looks like a Western influence.
 
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 Hi Ian, 
yes, I agree that the step at forte is very unusual, something I also never have seen before but like you say byself, the beveled edge is very suggestive and I am not aware of other blades from SEA with this feature and you can't find it by kalasans and balatos.   
 
 
I agree also with you that the pin through the horn hilt looks like a western influence. And agree also that this sword could be a marriage from various places like pointed out already from Aslan, you and me. Very unusual piece. But don't look like it was composed yesterday.
Regards,
Detlef