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					Originally Posted by Marcus den toom
					
				 Hi Nando,
 
 I did know the story, but never saw actual proof of it. Great job!
 For the occasion i wip out this picture of a rather short swivel gun, just for the fun of it. Its location is the newly opened army museum in The Netherlands. They have a few more interesting firearms as well.
 
 The gun is no more than 30-40 cm (including the tiller). Its actuall intend or place of usage is not known.
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 My example dated 1450 is a bit longer: 43 cms. with its tiller cut off ... go figure why.
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