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		| Here's another thing to consider; the examples we have seen so far (okay, we haven't seen a lot) are all of revolver form . I think this points to pre-WW2 otherwise we would see model 1911 45 caliber copies, no ?
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 That is a very good question Rick and I totally agree. You would think that more Philippine people would have had a greater chance of seeing a 1911A over the old Colt revolvers that were used earlier. These daggers seem to be a bit on the rare side and I have only seen photos of a dozen or so of them over the years and they were all of the revolver style.