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Old 22nd September 2014, 10:29 AM   #4
Marcus den toom
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That second one reminds me of these tiller guns in this manuscript: Martin le Franc (c. 1410 – 1461): Le Champion des Dames. Flandres 1442. Bibliothèque royale de Belgique, Bruxelles 9466, Fol. 4r. Found on Pinterest.

The tiller guns depicted here seem to have an ignition mechanism integrated with it?

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