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					Originally Posted by Neil
					
				 I have this interesting old jian pictured below and I was hoping to clean it up a little. Its a pretty long one at 33" total without the scabbard. Sorry about the mediocre pictures. I am trying to get this done quickly with kids abound on a Sunday morning.  As you can see the brass dragon face guard is very heavily patina-ed. I have tried to oil it up and work it with a stiff nylon brush, and also scrubbed it with brass wool. Both had little to no effect. Does anyone have a suggestions related to brass clean-up that might help. Thanks you in advance for your input. | 
	
 
Salaams Neil, 
              I know nothing about Chinese Jian save what I have learned on this thread and others. I have , however just placed a good cleaning tip...see 
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...8&page=4&pp=30  where I illustrate  
http://robertbeauford.net/cleaning_ancient_coins   
It is true that overcleaning can wreck objects, however, I think a study of the details contained in this site can be of some help. 
I too have  questions .. Is the item old? Could this be a new item ? I have my suspicions.. 
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.