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					Originally Posted by Tim Simmons
					
				 That is very nice Detlef.  Here are two more views, all there is un till I have it.  Apparently the carved female is not unusual.  Looks like it couls well be as old as the one you show. | 
	
 I don't think that my one is older, maybe a little bit, but I know that patination in such regions coming very soon. I think a coarse guess let them be from the first half until middle last century. Your dagger shows a nice patina as well.
Regards,
Detlef