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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 6th October 2008, 06:34 AM
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Posted By PenangsangII
in fact, out of respect, real pusaka keris should...

in fact, out of respect, real pusaka keris should not be used for any demo or performances like ketoprak. It is widely believed that the performers were in trance / possessed by "certain spirits"...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th September 2008, 05:30 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 37,741
Posted By PenangsangII
I agree with Newsteel - the ricikan looks very...

I agree with Newsteel - the ricikan looks very Malay to me. In my opinion, it could be peninsular judging from the nyepuhan style.....and the kembang kacang
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 17th September 2008, 02:34 AM
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Views: 12,340
Posted By PenangsangII
it's a Malay Malela blade (Esat coast of...

it's a Malay Malela blade (Esat coast of Peninsular)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th September 2008, 11:01 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 16,371
Posted By PenangsangII
back to the original question, I think hurubing...

back to the original question, I think hurubing dilah has to be called lok 3 :)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th September 2008, 08:39 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 8,712
Posted By PenangsangII
the top motifs suggest it is Pattani, resembling...

the top motifs suggest it is Pattani, resembling the gelugor type.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th September 2008, 08:34 AM
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Posted By PenangsangII
in northern Malaysia term, Rick's so called...

in northern Malaysia term, Rick's so called sepokal is lok 1, though i would prefer calling it lurus (usually sepokal has to be curvy).
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th September 2008, 09:13 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 21,485
Posted By PenangsangII
I agree with the idea that kris sundang...

I agree with the idea that kris sundang originationg from bugis land (that could include Borneo)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th September 2008, 10:15 AM
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Views: 10,074
Posted By PenangsangII
Apparently there is no set of pakem exists in...

Apparently there is no set of pakem exists in other than Jawa, as far I know. However, in determining the true form of keris made for example in Malaysia and "Malay archipelago" we rely on "samples"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th September 2008, 03:15 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 10,074
Posted By PenangsangII
I second the motion by Newsteel :) In my...

I second the motion by Newsteel :)

In my opinion, keris making and its "parameter" should remain traditional
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th August 2008, 04:43 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 48,681
Posted By PenangsangII
If it wasnt for the fretworks on the ganja and...

If it wasnt for the fretworks on the ganja and the ricikan at the dandik & sorsoran, I would have thought the blade was a pandai saras...... :)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th August 2008, 10:10 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 48,681
Posted By PenangsangII
I see what you mean Michael, but the neck is just...

I see what you mean Michael, but the neck is just too tall for a pipit teleng though the resemblance is obvious.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th August 2008, 03:30 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 88,335
Posted By PenangsangII
As usual, a clear and thorough explanation by...

As usual, a clear and thorough explanation by Alan. I learned a lot from his post.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th August 2008, 02:42 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 21,485
Posted By PenangsangII
I think it's peninsular's too, not only because...

I think it's peninsular's too, not only because of the perabut but also the blade. But the inscription on the blade suggests it's not peninsular aesthetic :confused: :confused:
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th August 2008, 02:38 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 48,681
Posted By PenangsangII
I dont believe that there is a fixed pakem for...

I dont believe that there is a fixed pakem for non-Jawanese hilts, but generally speaking the hilts are identifyable whether it is pipit teleng, patah tiga, kerdas, penghulu etc etc. IMHO, your hilt...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th August 2008, 03:31 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 48,681
Posted By PenangsangII
maybe this hilt can be called hulu nem neman,...

maybe this hilt can be called hulu nem neman, carved by an artist with a free mind, thus not restricted to pakem hulu. Just a thought....
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th August 2008, 03:17 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 17,169
Posted By PenangsangII
Thanks for your lengthy clarification Alan....

Thanks for your lengthy clarification Alan. Actually I was not trying to critisize Scratch's keris as being bad as I was rather trying to point out that nerjah landep is generally considered bad -...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th August 2008, 04:23 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 17,169
Posted By PenangsangII
dera Rick, I can see the steel core in your...

dera Rick,

I can see the steel core in your keris, but Scratch's example looks like having no steel core, or simply the pamor layering is "nerjah landhep" which is considered bad
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th August 2008, 04:04 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 15,526
Posted By PenangsangII
beautiful kris sundang (Malay term). Congrats...

beautiful kris sundang (Malay term). Congrats Scratch
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2008, 04:22 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 13,869
Posted By PenangsangII
Bad pamor - IMHO, bad to one person doesnt mean...

Bad pamor - IMHO, bad to one person doesnt mean bad to another person. The very reason keris is forged is to benefit the owner, so I dont think buntel mayat is bad perse
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th August 2008, 03:57 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 23,879
Posted By PenangsangII
Mykeris, from my limited understanding, the...

Mykeris, from my limited understanding, the illustration you provided that was referred to as pamor "Pucuk Rebung" is Jawanese equivalent to Raja Abala Raja.

Pak Ganjawulung, the "Ujung Gunung"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th August 2008, 04:09 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 23,879
Posted By PenangsangII
I've been wondering about this too. Also, the...

I've been wondering about this too. Also, the difference between these two and raja kam-kam. And what about satriya pinayungan? They all look almost the same.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th August 2008, 06:42 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 15,648
Posted By PenangsangII
Most likely a centipede - in Morc & Malay...

Most likely a centipede - in Morc & Malay cultures, snake and centipede have a place in weapons symbolism - never heard of scorpion being used.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th July 2008, 04:40 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 30,915
Posted By PenangsangII
here's my 0.02 cents..... I do not want to say...

here's my 0.02 cents..... I do not want to say this, but judging from your pictures alone, I dont think this is a "captured" blade. Similarly to the gunong. Yes, they both have some age, but IMHO,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th July 2008, 03:07 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 26,428
Posted By PenangsangII
Hi Auk, nice keris you have there. May I...

Hi Auk, nice keris you have there.

May I know what type of stone / metal in the naga's mouth? I was wondering whether it is gold or "wesi kuning".
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th July 2008, 02:58 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 13,360
Posted By PenangsangII
Though I didnot get the chance to touch the blade...

Though I didnot get the chance to touch the blade surface, judging from the pix I would say I is quite smooth a.k.a polished. Like Alan had said, could be Bali or Lombok. But then the pesi looks...
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