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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th November 2025, 09:38 PM
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Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, I tend to disagree that we can leave this...

David, I tend to disagree that we can leave this discussion up in the air.

My knowledge of Bugis society, culture & history is presently very limited, & my way of thinking about the keris is that...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th November 2025, 02:48 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, you are correct, "whole K&C"does mean...

Yes David, you are correct, "whole K&C"does mean in its entirety, I did not phase that well. I'll try to do better.

"entire" was not the best word for me to use, & my phrasing was...
Forum: European Armoury 28th November 2025, 02:58 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 9,875
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Very true Dr. I grew up with dibble sticks. ...

Very true Dr.
I grew up with dibble sticks.
I made the holes, Dad put in the seeds.

But this thing does look like a tool that could be used to cut turf, either squares out of, or along the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2025, 01:31 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually, that idea of "Bugis style" is very...

Actually, that idea of "Bugis style" is very probably a bit off track. Monumental evidence indicates that the scabbard used in East Jawa during the Mojopahit era was the same form that we now call a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2025, 01:05 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 10,234
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Pedaringan Kebak is a sub-type of wos wutah, it...

Pedaringan Kebak is a sub-type of wos wutah, it is an individual opinion in respect of whether or not the amount of the core covered by the pamor motif is sufficient for that pamor motif to be named...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th November 2025, 08:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, I have little interest in keris that are...

David, I have little interest in keris that are outside the core keris culture area of Jawa-Bali, however if I apply the way in which keris in these areas were classified by the people who taught me,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th November 2025, 12:40 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The kembang kacang is broken, so I'm guessing...

The kembang kacang is broken, so I'm guessing that an akut is what is called a kembang kacang in Jawa.

It is a pity that it is not perfect, but something like this in Jawa/Bali is normally given...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 09:57 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 10,234
Posted By A. G. Maisey
That's a good article you've linked to Jaya. ...

That's a good article you've linked to Jaya.

Obviously the author enjoys writing.

In respect of the pamor for this keris, I'd be a bit hesitant in giving it as pedaringan kebak. Pamor PK is a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 08:42 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 38,691
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, some keris dress used in Madura is highly...

Yes, some keris dress used in Madura is highly ornamented, my memory is that this ornamentation is not limited to sandang walikat form.

I do not understand the word "jurigan" in this context, can...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 03:27 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
So --- point of geographic origin of blade,...

So --- point of geographic origin of blade, scabbard, hilt, hilt cup, and also estimate of age for all those things.

Not my field Adam, but there are people here who might care to provide an...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 03:16 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
"Why could it not, or why should it not have a...

"Why could it not, or why should it not have a steel core if it is made of a homogenous material?"

Long answer short:- once a blade is made from two or more materials that do not share a common...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 09:51 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yeah, that makes sense Tatyana. But to me,...

Yeah, that makes sense Tatyana.

But to me, it seems a bit silly to make a keris blade from wootz.

The big positive quality of wootz is supposedly its superior cutting quality, but this is...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 09:37 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes IP, true. What we see & believe when...

Yes IP, true.

What we see & believe when we're on the outside looking in is very often a lot different to what we find the truth to be when we're on the inside, looking out.

It can be pretty...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 11:54 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
First I've seen like that Tatyana. Thank you. ...

First I've seen like that Tatyana. Thank you.

Yes, I think Sumatera would be more likely --- maybe much more likely --- to have had blades made of wootz than Jawa.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 08:37 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 11,502
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Adam, this type of keris is not my area of...

Adam, this type of keris is not my area of speciality, you need somebody with knowledge in this specific field.

However, it might help if you could clarify whether you mean the entire, dressed...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 08:24 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Adam, what you are looking for is a "quench"...

Adam, what you are looking for is a "quench" line, not a temper line, it indicates the point at which the quench might have stopped, it is a change in colour of the material, but it can disappear...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th November 2025, 05:31 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jaga, this keris has no pamor, it is all from the...

Jaga, this keris has no pamor, it is all from the same material, it has no core.

Don't forget that before ferric material is mixed with nickel bearing material, that ferric material needs to be...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th November 2025, 11:11 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 9,793
Posted By A. G. Maisey
That is a very astute observation, IP. Very....

That is a very astute observation, IP.

Very.

Well done.

That thought never crossed my mind, but it should have.

Here is are two photos of something I made, it has over 4000 nominal layers...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th November 2025, 02:43 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 10,234
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Understood Detlef. With collecting, & I'm...

Understood Detlef.

With collecting, & I'm not just talking about the sort of things that we discuss here, I'm talking about all sorts of collectables, the people who actually collect often have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd November 2025, 08:12 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 10,234
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Detlef, collectors agree on a lot of things, &...

Detlef, collectors agree on a lot of things, & they disagree on a lot of things.

The people who make and use these things mostly disagree with many, if not most of the collectors.

For many...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd November 2025, 07:41 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 19,441
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Gustav, in respect of your post #7. I have...

Gustav, in respect of your post #7.

I have now had a chance to examine my photographs and notes of EDb16.

I cannot recall that we had an argument about the way in which this pamor had been...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd November 2025, 03:11 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 10,234
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I thought that somebody else might have jumped...

I thought that somebody else might have jumped onto this hilt question before now, but it is still hanging there, so here is my opinion.

It is an opinion only, because this form of hilt has many...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd November 2025, 12:17 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 12,729
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, it might have been made from a repurposed...

Yes, it might have been made from a repurposed blade, or it could also have been made from any piece of ferric material that was of adequate size to accommodate the design. I can see no evidence in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd November 2025, 11:59 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 19,441
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Rob, there almost never is a visible 9th luk in a...

Rob, there almost never is a visible 9th luk in a keris, Javanese, Balinese or otherwise, the final luk at the leading end of the blade is an imaginary luk, put there because the number of luk MUST...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd November 2025, 12:02 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 19,441
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Possibly.

Possibly.
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