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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 12:23 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
sorry double posts.

sorry double posts.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 08:31 AM
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There are still swordsmiths in tugaya, lanao del...

There are still swordsmiths in tugaya, lanao del sur who make katik as a separate part from the blade.

Nowadays, the krises made anywhere in Mindanao follow the tausug design with sarimaok handle...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 08:16 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
I have a limited knowledge about malaysian and...

I have a limited knowledge about malaysian and Indonesian keris.

I don't know if my memory serves me right. One relief is a row of monkeys-- one is holding a kris-like sword and the other, a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 08:14 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
double post

double post
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 05:17 AM
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Su: The Edge of Water For the DNA, I am...

Su: The Edge of Water

For the DNA, I am lucky that i don't have to do it. A university back home is doing their human genome project on all ethnic groups. I'll just wait for their data. Turkey...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 05:00 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
javanese words usually have malay or...

javanese words usually have malay or sanskrit/tamil/hindi etymology. I can't find the etymology of gonjo.

I don't even know if gonjo and katik are the same. if gonjo is a continuous part of the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 04:54 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
if you read one of my blog posts on kris, I used...

if you read one of my blog posts on kris, I used katik and I even described it.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 04:47 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
Moro Armor Arabic Inscription

Hi. I am interested to know the English translation of the arabic inscription on this armor. thanks.

moro armor (http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/photos.php?id=2513)
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 04:36 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
you really think i have a shallow understanding...

you really think i have a shallow understanding of the subject I am interested in?

I have even been trying to find the etymology of gonjo for years now. do you know something about it?

it's...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 04:14 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
mmmmm I already saw that before you even saw me...

mmmmm I already saw that before you even saw me here.

I used katik because i am talkign about mindanaon kris. some muslims in davao call it sangga or panangga-- meaning, barrier.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 04:13 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
david, you should know how the traditional users...

david, you should know how the traditional users of kerises or krises view their weapons. I just don't think that even that simple stuff, I have to elaborate.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 03:58 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
check federico's parts of the kris. katik is the...

check federico's parts of the kris. katik is the perpendicular, irregular metal separating the handle form the blade.

every dialect has a word for it-- in english, it means barrier.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 03:50 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
I know we talked about krises in Mindanao, but i...

I know we talked about krises in Mindanao, but i showed you some reasons why krises in mindanao vary in designs, materials, symbolism, etc.

you have to take into account the geography, resources,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 03:34 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
let's not go into the issue on sabah. People of...

let's not go into the issue on sabah. People of sulawesi were also called moros.

in the philippines, borneo was not part of the moro province in 1900, yet the people there were called moros.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 03:30 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
you can use the one found in prambanan temple. I...

you can use the one found in prambanan temple. I can't even see any katik. definitely the blade is straight. I am not sure about the handle-- the stone is broken.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 03:07 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
this is what you wrote on 107. I assume this is...

this is what you wrote on 107. I assume this is your definition of kris.

"Sorry, no gonjo, no asymmetric blade...that is not a kris in my book. What's more, it has a punal style guard on it. Now...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 02:56 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
Yes, I am a lumad and mindanaoan. I started...

Yes, I am a lumad and mindanaoan. I started researching mindanao weapons since I was in college, ten years ago, after getting hold of a moro province map that included 90 percent of mindanao. There...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 02:40 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
all the links you posted have problematic...

all the links you posted have problematic historiography. you call your weapons ethnographic yet i read no ethnography. i wish i could tell you guys not to use problematic sources. If you want to...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 02:35 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
I have a news for you too. I don't intend to...

I have a news for you too. I don't intend to straighten out people. I am more interested of letting my alternative ideas out so people have the chance to rethink and choose what to believe. if...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 02:10 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
David, the fact that you just dismissed that...

David, the fact that you just dismissed that mindanaoan kris, which is typical among samal and yakan muslims tells me a lot about your thought process and misconceptions. You can stick to them, but...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 01:59 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
the problem with kris researchers is that they...

the problem with kris researchers is that they don't conduct ethnography.

Some of them even think moro is a single group of people. I am not even sure if they have a 19th century map of moro...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 01:44 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
that's very patronizing. I did my research in...

that's very patronizing. I did my research in the first place because too many misconceptions and misinterpretations about our culture.

That's why I want to involve science in my research so...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 01:35 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
hahahahahaha. that's not a kris? find a yakan...

hahahahahaha. that's not a kris? find a yakan or a samal, he will open your eyes.

that's the reason why i took anthropology-- foreigners come to my country and use their preconception to...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 01:27 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
here's another example why not all krises are the...

here's another example why not all krises are the same.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7668/p2181356st2.jpg
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th June 2008, 01:08 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://jama...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://jamalashley.blogsome.com/images/sultansuluT.jpg&imgrefurl=http://jamalashley.blogsome.com/2006/04/&h=463&w=244&sz=36&hl=en&start=56&um=1&tbnid=k3IJh7EtTrl...
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