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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2025, 11:10 PM
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Posted By Gustav
The Greneng in your previous post, with...

The Greneng in your previous post, with damaged/eroded Ron Dha, is from a Keris, which was auctioned on 29.3.25. It haven't made appearance here before.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2025, 11:08 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 17,448
Posted By Gustav
Alan, just sow your expanded post. Yes...

Alan, just sow your expanded post.
Yes exactly. And the Kecak being an invention of 30ties, and Barong dance in the form as it existed in the 30ties being likely not much older then around 1850.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2025, 11:03 AM
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Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you! I would like to add another...

Alan, thank you!

I would like to add another book, which documents changes in Balinese society and art - "The Life of a Balinese temple: Artistry, Imagination, and History in a Peasant Village"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2025, 08:51 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 17,448
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I knew you wouldn't sit on that, thank you....

Alan, I knew you wouldn't sit on that, thank you.

Yes, this is proper Balinese style ornamentation on Pendok, and this is a proper front side of a Pendok.

Letting the material question outside...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th March 2025, 02:47 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 17,448
Posted By Gustav
A good answer, Alan.

A good answer, Alan.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th March 2025, 08:24 AM
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Views: 17,448
Posted By Gustav
Alan, I have yet to see a silver Togogan as Keris...

Alan, I have yet to see a silver Togogan as Keris hilt, and a Balinese full silver Pendok with a firm provenance before 1930ties. Silver simply wasn't the preffered material/colour for Balinese, and...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th March 2025, 10:25 PM
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Views: 17,448
Posted By Gustav
Thomas, the dress is post 30ties, and very likely...

Thomas, the dress is post 30ties, and very likely from 70ties or later, except perhaps the ivory Atasan. The ornamentation on Pendok is not the most typical Balinese work
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd March 2025, 09:08 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 9,453
Posted By Gustav
Hilt most likely is a mixture of Damar, wax and...

Hilt most likely is a mixture of Damar, wax and ground terracotta, which was used to fill the typical embossed hilt made of metal sheet. This metal sheet is gone, filling is left.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th March 2025, 09:18 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 52,931
Posted By Gustav
Not just similar, the same. By the way in Jensens...

Not just similar, the same. By the way in Jensens Krisdisk it's in chapter North-East Java, snd as I understand it, he thinks it could possibly be from late Majapahit or the surviving hinduistic part...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th March 2025, 12:33 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 52,931
Posted By Gustav
Alan, this is the same Keris.

Alan, this is the same Keris.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th March 2025, 10:15 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 52,931
Posted By Gustav
It is not featured in Jensens book, I guess it is...

It is not featured in Jensens book, I guess it is in Krisdisk, chapter Bali, I cannot check at the moment. Here an even smaller picture of the entire Keris.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th March 2025, 07:33 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 52,931
Posted By Gustav
Well, this is Greneng of a Keris, which was...

Well, this is Greneng of a Keris, which was mentioned in an inventory for the first time in 1607. We most likely are looking at a 16th cent. Keris.

Todays "experts", seeing such blade, yell in one...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th March 2025, 11:19 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 52,931
Posted By Gustav
It is from a time period when Javanese and...

It is from a time period when Javanese and Balinese was very close.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th March 2025, 12:59 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 34,631
Posted By Gustav
Ian, that looks not like a drawing from before...

Ian, that looks not like a drawing from before the arriving of photography from SEAsia (attached a drawing from 1836(?)). To be honest, it doesn't look like a drawing or photography from 19th cent.,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th March 2025, 10:51 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 34,631
Posted By Gustav
Gentlemen, you are discussing an assumed...

Gentlemen, you are discussing an assumed depiction of a person, who was around 74 years old at the time of invention of photography and died 5 years later.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th January 2025, 08:02 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 52,080
Posted By Gustav
Very attractive piece overall, and the...

Very attractive piece overall, and the laminations are fantastic!
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th December 2024, 06:10 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 46,979
Posted By Gustav
Superior craftmanship?

Superior craftmanship?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th December 2024, 09:08 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 24,764
Posted By Gustav
Hmm.

Hmm.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 11th December 2024, 07:32 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 11,108
Posted By Gustav
On spine (abbreviated): Zlatoust arms factory, on...

On spine (abbreviated): Zlatoust arms factory, on blade monogram of Nikolai II.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th December 2024, 09:00 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 77,115
Posted By Gustav
The earliest dated yataghan with twisted rod...

The earliest dated yataghan with twisted rod pattern (Turkish ribbon) to my knowledge is from 1592. Around this date twisted rod pattern appears also in Asia and SEAsia.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2024, 06:43 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 17,592
Posted By Gustav
A couple of pictures - two of the original Keris...

A couple of pictures - two of the original Keris from auction house in France, before being cleaned. As we see, the scabbard is a perfect fit, contrary to the remark "The wrongko does not appear to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 6th November 2024, 07:24 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 41,448
Posted By Gustav
Adam, Pamor Udan Mas basically is a surface...

Adam, Pamor Udan Mas basically is a surface manipulation of a Pamor Mlumah (horizontal Pamor layers, opposite to Pamor Miring, where the layers are arranged vertically). Pamor Mlumah with small...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th November 2024, 12:01 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 41,448
Posted By Gustav
There is a possibility this is a reworked older...

There is a possibility this is a reworked older blade. It is not uncommon to take an older blade with Pamor Wos Wutah and change it to a blade with the "wealth bringing" Pamor Udan Man. Such altered...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 09:11 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 16,407
Posted By Gustav
The sheath looks like a typical Sulawesi Bugis...

The sheath looks like a typical Sulawesi Bugis sheath, hilt most likely is Sulawesi, blade looks a bit more like Sumatran Bugis, but, if original to sheath, likely is Sulawesi too. Well, the fit is...
Forum: Keris Swap Forum 23rd September 2024, 03:52 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 104,298
Posted By Gustav
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