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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd April 2010, 03:18 AM
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Posted By ganjawulung
I apologize for not to notice on "now"... I just...

I apologize for not to notice on "now"... I just feel, that in the past this naming of keris dapur in Java such as kebo lajer, was intentionally to express certain purpose of the keris making...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd April 2010, 03:03 AM
Replies: 38
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Posted By ganjawulung
Thanks, for the explanation Alan, It is still...

Thanks, for the explanation Alan,
It is still difficult to convince me that this blade is not old. The light material I feel in my hand is one thing, and the "wasuhan" (quenching) technique of the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd April 2010, 12:44 AM
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Posted By ganjawulung
Of course no problem at all, Alan. The half round...

Of course no problem at all, Alan. The half round pin-hole near the flat key, do you think it was intentionally made for technical reason?

Thank you in advance, Alan...

GANJAWULUNG
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd April 2010, 12:30 AM
Replies: 15
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Posted By ganjawulung
On the oral tradition. People in the past in Java...

On the oral tradition. People in the past in Java usually get lesson -- moral lesson, for instance -- from oral tradition. Not from books. But from "tembang" (javanese recited poetry). This tradition...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st April 2010, 04:51 PM
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Posted By ganjawulung
I've just checked in Zoetmulder Jawa Kuna -...

I've just checked in Zoetmulder Jawa Kuna - Indonesian book, yes, you are right Alan. "Lajer" literally means "main pillar". No wonder, if "kebo lajer" was translated as "leader of kerbau"...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st April 2010, 04:40 PM
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Posted By ganjawulung
Yes, "teki" grass has a characteristic of...

Yes, "teki" grass has a characteristic of not-easy-to-be-routed-out, because of its small tuber underground... Maybe the characteristic of this grass-root was suitable to symbolize the characteristic...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st April 2010, 04:26 PM
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Posted By ganjawulung
It seems that this whatever "sundang" was fit...

It seems that this whatever "sundang" was fit with (probably) a key, not really like a needle-sized pin. A flat key at one side of the square hole. (picture below)...

GANJAWULUNG
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st April 2010, 01:56 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 19,797
Posted By ganjawulung
In modern Javanese, "maesa" still exist...

In modern Javanese, "maesa" still exist colloquially, a more polite word to mention the water buffalo in agricultural daily life in central and east Java. And the ordinary word for that is still,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st March 2010, 06:03 PM
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Posted By ganjawulung
Very interesting interpretation, Alan. Especially...

Very interesting interpretation, Alan. Especially that you noting on some scholars of Old Javanese such as one of the most respectful Old Javanolog Mr Zoetmulder, on the meaning of "kebo".

"Kebo"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st March 2010, 11:07 AM
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Posted By ganjawulung
Thank you, Alan, for enriching us on this "kebo"...

Thank you, Alan, for enriching us on this "kebo" matter. At least, "male" could symbolize as "leader" too. As does in javanese, red color could means as "brave" or white as "sacred" too... Male kebo,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st March 2010, 12:48 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 19,797
Posted By ganjawulung
We in Java, colloquially very intimate with the...

We in Java, colloquially very intimate with the word "kebo" which may means "kerbau" in Indonesian and Malay language, or "carabao" in English, which you may translate it as "water buffalo" as...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2010, 11:59 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 34,488
Posted By ganjawulung
Then, Penangsang, could you guarantee -- that the...

Then, Penangsang, could you guarantee -- that the hilt being with the blade, is the "original" hilt. Or who could guarantee? And what happened if -- for instance -- you got a Bugis blade which...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th March 2010, 03:34 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 34,488
Posted By ganjawulung
Thanks, Penangsang. One more confuseness of mine...

Thanks, Penangsang. One more confuseness of mine is, do I need the hilt being with the blade to nail the point of origin of a keris? Can't we decide the origin of the blade only, without being with...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th March 2010, 06:05 PM
Replies: 75
Views: 80,299
Posted By ganjawulung
Hi marvelous Graham... I really like your...

Hi marvelous Graham...
I really like your workmanship. Beautiful "durga hilt"... And I hope these pictures below may inspire your next work. Three styles of old "durga hilts" -- two Cirebon style...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th March 2010, 06:24 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 34,488
Posted By ganjawulung
CARITA (javanese version)

Just for comparison, this is "carita keprabon" or literally means "royal carita", one variant of among dhapurs of caritas in javanese keris world... Usually carita dhapur is 11 luks or more...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th March 2010, 07:35 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 19,068
Posted By ganjawulung
Thanks, David for the response. Sometimes, it is...

Thanks, David for the response. Sometimes, it is confusing to me. When I find a "bugis" keris, but dressed in "palembang" style for instance, can I mention it "a palembang keris"? Or "a bugis keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th March 2010, 04:06 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 34,488
Posted By ganjawulung
Dear Shahrial, Maybe this is a stupid question....

Dear Shahrial,
Maybe this is a stupid question. Is there any relevance, between name of "cherita" or cerita/carita of this 9 luks keris with dhapur's name in javanese keris' idiom? Would you...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th March 2010, 03:32 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 19,068
Posted By ganjawulung
By the way, Kai Wee, would you please enlighten...

By the way, Kai Wee, would you please enlighten me -- what is the significant difference between "terengganu keris" and "bugis keris"? I apologize for being too confused -- especially when you...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th March 2010, 02:02 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 17,272
Posted By ganjawulung
If it is a sempana, then it should be 9 luks with...

If it is a sempana, then it should be 9 luks with details of one sekar kacang, one jalen, one lambe gajah, one pejetan, and greneng. (Hi, I am back home again in Jakarta this afternoon...). It could...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th March 2010, 06:16 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 14,024
Posted By ganjawulung
NATIONAL MUSEUM

Dear Cedric,
Just to inform you about the National Museum of Jakarta, it is closed every Monday. So, if you want to go there next week, you should better go on Sunday morning, or other than Mondays....
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th March 2010, 04:00 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 35,601
Posted By ganjawulung
Thanks a lot, for all the advice. I think it is...

Thanks a lot, for all the advice. I think it is very useful too, for everyone in this Warung. Really knowledgeable advice... Even in my own hand, still everytime I misjudged to analyze what happened...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd March 2010, 10:53 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 35,601
Posted By ganjawulung
Of course Heinz, I enjoy staying here although...

Of course Heinz, I enjoy staying here although only two nights in the French speaking part of Switzerland in the lake-side of Neuchatel. This morning, is quite a long trip to certain places in the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd March 2010, 04:10 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 35,601
Posted By ganjawulung
The best way to know how the "sundang" maker...

The best way to know how the "sundang" maker fitted the ganja to the square pesi, is to loose (open) both part. But of course, I won't do that in this "sundang" because it is still fitted and strong...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st March 2010, 04:51 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 14,024
Posted By ganjawulung
(While transit in Changi Singapore) Made Ardika,...

(While transit in Changi Singapore) Made Ardika, young balinese warangka maker, and handle carver in Batuan, not far from Neka Museum in Ubud. Later I will give you his contact number... And if you...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 21st March 2010, 04:54 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 13,808
Posted By ganjawulung
Vagueness

Interesting topic on interesting book,

May i quote this interesting statement of Mr van Deemter on vagueness, as Alan posted in this thread:

...In the course of this book, it will become clear...
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