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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th June 2026, 09:14 AM
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Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you, I understand.

Alan, thank you, I understand.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th June 2026, 07:27 AM
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Posted By Gustav
Alan, what are your main points against East Java...

Alan, what are your main points against East Java origin?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd June 2026, 08:40 PM
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Posted By Gustav
Tom, thank you for the pictures. I might...

Tom, thank you for the pictures.

I might consider the possibility the Bugis style Gonjo is an old replacement. The blade itself looks East Javanese to me, with Pamor Ujung Gunung or Jungjung...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd June 2026, 06:19 PM
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Posted By Gustav
The Blade except Gonjo looks like East Java?...

The Blade except Gonjo looks like East Java? Tlamaan seems to be absolutely straight - but we need better pictures.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd June 2026, 06:09 PM
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Posted By Gustav
The 3 Luk Keris combines characteristics from...

The 3 Luk Keris combines characteristics from Perak and Kelantan. As they are neighboring states that shouldn't be an anomaly.

The 9 Luk Keris blade is tricky. Dress - sheath is distinctly South...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th May 2026, 10:28 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 26,058
Posted By Gustav
Finally had chance to see it on bigger screen....

Finally had chance to see it on bigger screen. These are horizontal layers, so no Pucuk Rebung here.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th May 2026, 09:49 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 26,058
Posted By Gustav
Thank you, Detlef! I guess, krisses with...

Thank you, Detlef!

I guess, krisses with silver inlays could have been stained even more often.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6560&highlight=staining+kris&page=3
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th May 2026, 07:34 AM
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Views: 26,058
Posted By Gustav
Ian, I never claimed any significance to Pamor on...

Ian, I never claimed any significance to Pamor on Moro Kris, I just say, that we sometimes see other intended patterns then twisted rods. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Warangan is not a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th May 2026, 06:54 AM
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Posted By Gustav
Ian, what you describe would be Pamor Rekan -...

Ian, what you describe would be Pamor Rekan - "engineered" Pamor, versus Pamor Tiban.

In short - Pamor Adeg is not very rare on Moro Kris, I have seen some examples here on forum. From Pamor Adeg...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th May 2026, 06:25 AM
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Posted By Gustav
Pamor is, what is called Pucuk Rebung/Raja Abala...

Pamor is, what is called Pucuk Rebung/Raja Abala Raja/Jungjung Derajat. As I understand, Pucuk Rebung was more used in Sumatran/Peninsular context.
While this Pamor could be very rare or unique for...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th May 2026, 10:50 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 26,587
Posted By Gustav
Looks like an older sheath and Mendak have been...

Looks like an older sheath and Mendak have been reused to hold a post-1980ties blade and hilt.
(This is about the original Keris of this thread).
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th May 2026, 10:46 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 26,058
Posted By Gustav
Yes. And the Pendok looks like Sumatran work,...

Yes. And the Pendok looks like Sumatran work, actually quite typical. Sampir is a Riau form. Terennganu form is very similar, but a bit different.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th May 2026, 11:20 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 35,054
Posted By Gustav
The blade, hilt an Mendak are all earlier then...

The blade, hilt an Mendak are all earlier then 1850, and in fact could be earlier then 1800.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st May 2026, 07:28 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 19,957
Posted By Gustav
Yes, a Laz Bichak from south eastern Black Sea...

Yes, a Laz Bichak from south eastern Black Sea region.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th May 2026, 01:30 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 32,989
Posted By Gustav
This explanation is absolutely plausible. There...

This explanation is absolutely plausible. There are no really old Keris Gonjo Iras.

Gonjo of genuine Keris Budo are very substantial. There was such Gonjo, perhaps even from transitional Keris, on...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th May 2026, 12:11 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 32,989
Posted By Gustav
This would be true also for "normal" Keris if...

This would be true also for "normal" Keris if electric tools are used. On the level of about 95% or more Keris Gonjo Iras there is not much you can do wrong with hand tools while carving Greneng......
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th May 2026, 10:09 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 32,989
Posted By Gustav
Making Gonjo Iras generally involves less time...

Making Gonjo Iras generally involves less time and is comparatively an easier task, except the very rare cases where Sogokan/Kruwingan are carved, in good quality.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th May 2026, 08:17 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 32,989
Posted By Gustav
Yes, many Gonjo Iras Keris from Lombok. Detlef,...

Yes, many Gonjo Iras Keris from Lombok.
Detlef, the blade in your Straits Bugis sheath likely also comes from South Sumatra. Hilt looks like Sulawesi Bugis.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th April 2026, 10:40 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 44,699
Posted By Gustav
And arms from Caucasus is a bit special case,...

And arms from Caucasus is a bit special case, because a real development in this field started after the heydays of this forum.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th April 2026, 10:26 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 44,699
Posted By Gustav
Each online forum has its own dynamics. But - I...

Each online forum has its own dynamics. But - I am regularly cheking a couple of good online forums like this, on very different subjects, and it seems, generally, the days of such forums are over,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th April 2026, 09:05 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 44,969
Posted By Gustav
The picture I posted is of a Kris which belongs...

The picture I posted is of a Kris which belongs to Spunjer, Spunjer has stated it has a separate gangya, and, knowing his experience with Kris, I trust him on this.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th April 2026, 07:27 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 44,699
Posted By Gustav
JackBrown, you have a remarkable collection....

JackBrown, you have a remarkable collection. Unfortunately members with interest and knowledge in Caucasian weapons have left this forum. I suggest you to pose your questions in the facebook group...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 17th April 2026, 04:02 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 44,969
Posted By Gustav
It came out very nice, with almost complete...

It came out very nice, with almost complete inlays intact!

Interesting to note, the elephant trunk also is a separate peace, like most probably the one in #21.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th April 2026, 01:11 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 39,059
Posted By Gustav
Rob, as Alan indicated, we are moving in...

Rob,

as Alan indicated, we are moving in direction of a mine field. Let me illustrate this.

There is a serie of books about Arts of Dutch East Indies by J.E. Jasper, a Dutch official, who...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th April 2026, 04:58 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 39,059
Posted By Gustav
Alan, thank you!

Alan, thank you!
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